The virtuous mean between time drunkenness and work martyrdom
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The virtuous mean between time drunkenness and work martyrdom
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Re: The virtuous mean between time drunkenness and work martyrdom
#2The article defines the opposite of being a workaholic ("work matyr") as
> “Time Indifference – We put off what must be done and do not use our time to support our own vision and further our own goals.”
Personally i can't really identify with that view. I find work hardest to focus on when it is opposed to my own vision/goals (other then the goal to pay my rent). I suppose its still the same thing as a second order effect, spending time procrastinating is usually more time then just straight up doing it, which is less time on your own goals.
Re: The virtuous mean between time drunkenness and work martyrdom
#3"Time drunks deeply intuit this, and their procrastination-induced state of timelessness should not be considered a terrible character flaw but rather an act of spiritual rebellion against modernity."
Thank you, I needed that. Time to continue procrastitating.
Re: The virtuous mean between time drunkenness and work martyrdom
#4It’s strange that we even work more or even at the same amount of time as 100 years ago.
We have systems that increase worker productivity and even software by itself for the most part should be decreasing the amount of work to be done since it’s supposedly a large force multiplier for productivity.
Economists predicted we would be working less (but they are bad at predicting most things) so while there might be a few more jobs why should work hours have stayed constant? I’m not even saying we have bs jobs either.
Re: The virtuous mean between time drunkenness and work martyrdom
#5It’s strange that we even work more or even at the same amount of time as 100 years ago. We have systems that increase worker productivity and even software by itself for the most part should be decreasing the amount of work to be done since it’s supposedly a large force multiplier for productivity. Economists predicted we would be working less (but they are bad at predicting most things) so while there might be a fe…
//It’s strange that we even work more or even at the same amount of time as 100 years ago.
We don’t. A hundred years the average man was putting in 7 to 7 shifts on the factory or the farm. Physically exhausting, dangerous and painful labor that required your physical presence and likely left you too exhausted for anything else.
Today you and I are click clacking our keyboards in a safe and air conditioned environment, likely can fuck off for hours with out anyone noticing etc.
The idea that we work “the same” as even two generations ago is preposterous.
Re: The virtuous mean between time drunkenness and work martyrdom
#6The article defines the opposite of being a workaholic ("work matyr") as > “Time Indifference – We put off what must be done and do not use our time to support our own vision and further our own goals.” Personally i can't really identify with that view. I find work hardest to focus on when it is opposed to my own vision/goals (other then the goal to pay my rent). I suppose its still the same thing as a second order e…
> spending time procrastinating is usually more time then just straight up doing it, which is less time on your own goals
When it comes to employment, I've never found it actually benefits me all that much to work hard and deliver results early.
And it doesn't free me up that extra time to pursue my own goals either.
I don't think I'm alone in this.
Re: The virtuous mean between time drunkenness and work martyrdom
#7It’s strange that we even work more or even at the same amount of time as 100 years ago. We have systems that increase worker productivity and even software by itself for the most part should be decreasing the amount of work to be done since it’s supposedly a large force multiplier for productivity. Economists predicted we would be working less (but they are bad at predicting most things) so while there might be a fe…
Because humans don’t care about absolute wealth they care about relative wealth. As long as someone else is working more there’s going to be pressure to keep up with them.
Re: The virtuous mean between time drunkenness and work martyrdom
#8It’s strange that we even work more or even at the same amount of time as 100 years ago. We have systems that increase worker productivity and even software by itself for the most part should be decreasing the amount of work to be done since it’s supposedly a large force multiplier for productivity. Economists predicted we would be working less (but they are bad at predicting most things) so while there might be a fe…
Because humans don’t care about absolute wealth they care about relative wealth. As long as someone else is working more there’s going to be pressure to keep up with them.
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Re: The virtuous mean between time drunkenness and work martyrdom
#9The article defines the opposite of being a workaholic ("work matyr") as > “Time Indifference – We put off what must be done and do not use our time to support our own vision and further our own goals.” Personally i can't really identify with that view. I find work hardest to focus on when it is opposed to my own vision/goals (other then the goal to pay my rent). I suppose its still the same thing as a second order e…
> spending time procrastinating is usually more time then just straight up doing it, which is less time on your own goals When it comes to employment, I've never found it actually benefits me all that much to work hard and deliver results early. And it doesn't free me up that extra time to pursue my own goals either. I don't think I'm alone in this.
You’ll be rewarded with more work for sure
Re: The virtuous mean between time drunkenness and work martyrdom
#10It’s strange that we even work more or even at the same amount of time as 100 years ago. We have systems that increase worker productivity and even software by itself for the most part should be decreasing the amount of work to be done since it’s supposedly a large force multiplier for productivity. Economists predicted we would be working less (but they are bad at predicting most things) so while there might be a fe…
//It’s strange that we even work more or even at the same amount of time as 100 years ago. We don’t. A hundred years the average man was putting in 7 to 7 shifts on the factory or the farm. Physically exhausting, dangerous and painful labor that required your physical presence and likely left you too exhausted for anything else. Today you and I are click clacking our keyboards in a safe and air conditioned environmen…
Add to that our much improved relative standard of living (even lower classes are much better off than their long ago counter parts), and it’s clear we’re working less for what we get.