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Rise of the Brogrammer

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Re: Rise of the Brogrammer

#2
"Now, I'm hearing people talk about being concerned about the number of quote-unquote 'idea people' flooding the field."

I'm not concerned at all. Ideas are just that: vapor. Show me a concrete implementation. Someone has to actually build that.

Re: Rise of the Brogrammer

#3
Should we stay in the background forever, and let the marketing people dictate the future of tech, or make some serious attempt to drive tech into another direction?

At some point you have to get people's attention - once that happens, maybe we can see improvement. Until then, brogramming just makes assclowns easier to spot.

Re: Rise of the Brogrammer

#4
I just read this article. It's awesome. Yeah there are definitely problems with the industry. I wonder, though, if some of the things mentioned (like the frathouse like atmosphere) is a sort of response to the 'geekiness' associated with programming. [Not that that in any way justifies sexism or boozing at work, etc]

Re: Rise of the Brogrammer

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post #2

"Now, I'm hearing people talk about being concerned about the number of quote-unquote 'idea people' flooding the field." I'm not concerned at all. Ideas are just that: vapor. Show me a concrete implementation. Someone has to actually build that.

There's more open jobs for good programmers than there are good programmers. The salary is also very competitive with most other industries. I'm surprised we haven't seen more of a flood of people wanting to try their hands at programming and startups.

Re: Rise of the Brogrammer

#8
>Rise of the Brogrammer (cnn.com)

"Rise of another idiotic idea that applies to less of 0.1% of the population of programmers, but makes for a nice headlines (or the idiots at media outlets thing so".

Here, I fixed it for CNN.

Re: Rise of the Brogrammer

#9

I just read this article. It's awesome. Yeah there are definitely problems with the industry. I wonder, though, if some of the things mentioned (like the frathouse like atmosphere) is a sort of response to the 'geekiness' associated with programming. [Not that that in any way justifies sexism or boozing at work, etc]

It's a consideration, what with the terms 'geek' and 'nerd' having negative connotations (geek much less so).

'Brogramming' feels like a knee-jerk reaction to boot out the socially awkward, reclusive stereotypes ignorantly associated with being technically proficient.

Interesting to note that in its attempt to do this, it's merely exchanging one set of stereotypes for another. It doesn't really solve the perception problem these people seem to have.

Re: Rise of the Brogrammer

#10
Most of the hype about this is that it plays against type - "you thought programmers were shy neckbearded nerds? Ha! In reality they are hard drinking, hard caffeinating, woman disrespecting fratboys!"

Both are stereotypes (with some basis in reality here and there). But of course it makes a good story for the mainstream media.

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