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Mozilla's new service tries to wipe your data off the web

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Re: Mozilla's new service tries to wipe your data off the web

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Darn, I looks like someone stole my identity and threw in the $8.99/m to DeleteMe!

...Now I have to start all over training the ad targeting I carefully built over all those years.

But seriously, wouldn't it make more sense if this service were free for everyone except those that opted in? (For example, by not sending the DNT header in all requests?)

Re: Mozilla's new service tries to wipe your data off the web

#3

Darn, I looks like someone stole my identity and threw in the $8.99/m to DeleteMe! ...Now I have to start all over training the ad targeting I carefully built over all those years. But seriously, wouldn't it make more sense if this service were free for everyone except those that opted in? (For example, by not sending the DNT header in all requests?)

>For example, by not sending the DNT header in all requests?

DNT is all but dead; it never got past the draft specification phase - even though being adopted by the major players in the browser realm. (Most have already removed the feature.)

GPC[1] is supposed to be the new DNT but I doubt it will have as much success.

[1] - https://globalprivacycontrol.org/press-release/20201007.html

Re: Mozilla's new service tries to wipe your data off the web

#4

Darn, I looks like someone stole my identity and threw in the $8.99/m to DeleteMe! ...Now I have to start all over training the ad targeting I carefully built over all those years. But seriously, wouldn't it make more sense if this service were free for everyone except those that opted in? (For example, by not sending the DNT header in all requests?)

>For example, by not sending the DNT header in all requests? DNT is all but dead; it never got past the draft specification phase - even though being adopted by the major players in the browser realm. (Most have already removed the feature.) GPC[1] is supposed to be the new DNT but I doubt it will have as much success. [1] - https://globalprivacycontrol.org/press-release/20201007.html

> DNT is all but dead

Not sure, but I think a German court(?) recently ruled it's a legitimate way for a user to express intent that should be honoured by website.

Technically there isn't a reason to look for other means, the reason is mostly that advertisers would rather not have visitors choose this option. The reason DNT was almost instantly rejected, for example, was that the compromise text mentioned the user enable DNT, but then some browsers enabled it by default. Advertisers: Hurray! We found a reason to ignore user preferences!

So, for all I care it might be DNT, GPC or a plug-in that auto-clicks REJECT COOKIE. It's the default I would expect. It would be great the web simply would not offer ad targeting unless I explicitly enabled some tracking beacon because I sincerely like targeted ads better than old-school billboard.

Re: Mozilla's new service tries to wipe your data off the web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>For example, by not sending the DNT header in all requests? DNT is all but dead; it never got past the draft specification phase - even though being adopted by the major players in the browser realm. (Most have already removed the feature.) GPC[1] is supposed to be the new DNT but I doubt it will have as much success. [1] - https://globalprivacycontrol.org/press-release/20201007.html

> DNT is all but dead Not sure, but I think a German court(?) recently ruled it's a legitimate way for a user to express intent that should be honoured by website. Technically there isn't a reason to look for other means, the reason is mostly that advertisers would rather not have visitors choose this option. The reason DNT was almost instantly rejected, for example, was that the compromise text mentioned the user en…

> Not sure, but I think a German court(?) recently ruled it's a legitimate way for a user to express intent that should be honoured by website.

Yep, regarding LinkedIn. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38081633

Re: Mozilla's new service tries to wipe your data off the web

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Darn, I looks like someone stole my identity and threw in the $8.99/m to DeleteMe! ...Now I have to start all over training the ad targeting I carefully built over all those years. But seriously, wouldn't it make more sense if this service were free for everyone except those that opted in? (For example, by not sending the DNT header in all requests?)

Maybe some EU country would like to step in and offer this as a basic service to all their citizens? (I'm sure Mozilla would be happy to give a discount.)

Re: Mozilla's new service tries to wipe your data off the web

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Google offers something very similar for subscribers of Google One.

GOOGLE?! So... left hand cleaning up the mess created by the right hand? Isn't that called a Ponzi scheme, or something?

they just want to be the exclusive owner of all yours datas!

Re: Mozilla's new service tries to wipe your data off the web

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Google offers something very similar for subscribers of Google One.

I just looked through the perks on my Google One and don't see this offering. I don't see it in the premium perks either. Do you happen to have a link? Is it some kind of hidden benefit?
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