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Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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Some good points from Raskin about the entangled relationship between the freedom of thought and the freedom of expression. But then regarding recommender systems and generative AI, I think he is saying pretty much what Lessig was saying earlier:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37999405

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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Some good points from Raskin about the entangled relationship between the freedom of thought and the freedom of expression. But then regarding recommender systems and generative AI, I think he is saying pretty much what Lessig was saying earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37999405

So, I think this doesn't fly. Lessig is trying to extrapolate rules for a broadcast medium (magazines, newspapers, tv) onto a decentralized peer-to-peer medium, and it just doesn't work. If you have my IP and I have yours, we can share information without requiring an intermediate data broker. What Lessig is advocating for would make all ISPs, DNSes and backbone providers, the defacto gatekeepers of an essentially decentralized system. And even then, it won't stop me from sending you a packet over the local network, or establishing my own local internet.

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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post #3

Some good points from Raskin about the entangled relationship between the freedom of thought and the freedom of expression. But then regarding recommender systems and generative AI, I think he is saying pretty much what Lessig was saying earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37999405

So, I think this doesn't fly. Lessig is trying to extrapolate rules for a broadcast medium (magazines, newspapers, tv) onto a decentralized peer-to-peer medium, and it just doesn't work. If you have my IP and I have yours, we can share information without requiring an intermediate data broker. What Lessig is advocating for would make all ISPs, DNSes and backbone providers, the defacto gatekeepers of an essentially de…

The solutions are one thing, sure, but I was merely referring to this comment from Lessig:

Q: "Just to be clear, this is the generative AIs, not the recommendation algorithm AIs."

A: "I think they’re the same thing right now. They will be deployed hand in glove in order to achieve the objective of the person deploying them."

Therefore, I am little skeptical also about Raskin's take that recommender systems would be "unsophisticated". If you look at TikTok, the contrary holds (even if his argument about misalignment is true).

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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The fake news problem is huge on twitter now, as if it could not get worse. I've seen people unashamedly post stuff that is literally false, not something false in a satirical or parody sense. It's becoming increasingly hard to separate fact form fiction. It will get to the point where in which the determination of truth is by some consensus process online in by competing fake or unreliable sources.

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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I think this is an opportunity for traditional news networks to re-emerge as trusted news sources, by reporting only true and verified events.

The days of going on social media looking for news are over, when people can quickly spin up fake articles with photos of some famous landmark on fire or in ruins it becomes too frustrating to discern between fact and fiction.

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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Colonel : The digital society furthers human flaws and selectively rewards the development of convenient half-truths. Just look at the strange juxtapositions of morality around you.

Rose : Billions spent on new weapons in order to humanely murder other humans.

Colonel : Rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their victims.

Rose : Although there are people suffering in poverty, huge donations are made to protect endangered species. Everyone grows up being told the same thing.

Colonel : "Be nice to other people."

Rose : "But beat out the competition!"

Colonel : "You're special." "Believe in yourself and you will succeed."

Rose : But it's obvious from the start that only a few can succeed...

Colonel : You exercise your right to "freedom" and this is the result. All rhetoric to avoid conflict and protect each other from hurt. The untested truths spun by different interests continue to churn and accumulate in the sandbox of political correctness and value systems.

Rose : Everyone withdraws into their own small gated community, afraid of a larger forum. They stay inside their little ponds, leaking whatever "truth" suits them into the growing cesspool of society at large.

Colonel : The different cardinal truths neither clash nor mesh. No one is invalidated, but nobody is right.

Rose : Not even natural selection can take place here. The world is being engulfed in "truth."

Colonel : And this is the way the world ends. Not with a bang, but a whimper.

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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Colonel : The digital society furthers human flaws and selectively rewards the development of convenient half-truths. Just look at the strange juxtapositions of morality around you. Rose : Billions spent on new weapons in order to humanely murder other humans. Colonel : Rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their victims. Rose : Although there are people suffering in poverty, huge donations a…

It's from "Metal Gear Solid", just saying if anyone is curious.

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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Colonel : The digital society furthers human flaws and selectively rewards the development of convenient half-truths. Just look at the strange juxtapositions of morality around you. Rose : Billions spent on new weapons in order to humanely murder other humans. Colonel : Rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their victims. Rose : Although there are people suffering in poverty, huge donations a…

It's from "Metal Gear Solid", just saying if anyone is curious.

Metal Gear Solid 2, to be specific. A game shockingly ahead of it's time.
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