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Is there a website that has a list of the steps you should take if your phone is stolen? My first instinct would be to use someone else's phone to google "what to do if your iPhone is stolen".

But I wouldn't know how to determine if the instructions I was seeing were incomplete, or outdated. Is there a trusted, frequently-updated site that we can easily remember and plug into our friends' phone if and when this terrible thing happens to us?

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This took quite a while to get ready but I do believe it prevents 99.9% of the theft cases mentioned. I am downloading it right now.

Even if it prevents reselling the phone, it doesn't prevent the phone from being stolen. It would be a dumb criminal to leave you your phone to allow you to immediately call the police if you've been mugged. Just take the phone, trash it literally placing it in a bin or destroying it or both.

At the end of the day, you still don't have the phone whether the thief profits from it or not. All this will do is prevent criminals up to date with this info to not try to resell it. It does not prevent them from taking/destroying it.

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Is there a website that has a list of the steps you should take if your phone is stolen? My first instinct would be to use someone else's phone to google "what to do if your iPhone is stolen". But I wouldn't know how to determine if the instructions I was seeing were incomplete, or outdated. Is there a trusted, frequently-updated site that we can easily remember and plug into our friends' phone if and when this terri…

This Apple support page has a section on "If your iPhone or iPad is lost permanently or was stolen" : https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201472

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This took quite a while to get ready but I do believe it prevents 99.9% of the theft cases mentioned. I am downloading it right now.

Even if it prevents reselling the phone, it doesn't prevent the phone from being stolen. It would be a dumb criminal to leave you your phone to allow you to immediately call the police if you've been mugged. Just take the phone, trash it literally placing it in a bin or destroying it or both. At the end of the day, you still don't have the phone whether the thief profits from it or not. All this will do is prevent cr…

Why would a criminal steal your phone if they knew they couldn't sell it?

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post #2

This took quite a while to get ready but I do believe it prevents 99.9% of the theft cases mentioned. I am downloading it right now.

Even if it prevents reselling the phone, it doesn't prevent the phone from being stolen. It would be a dumb criminal to leave you your phone to allow you to immediately call the police if you've been mugged. Just take the phone, trash it literally placing it in a bin or destroying it or both. At the end of the day, you still don't have the phone whether the thief profits from it or not. All this will do is prevent cr…

This feature is not really about protecting your device from being stolen. It's about protecting your iCloud account and everything on your device from being compromised when somebody has stolen your device and also has your phone's passcode.

It's an attempt to resolve the fairly widespread iPhone / iCloud social engineering takeover attacks that were documented in great detail by Joanna Stern last year:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-iphone-security-theft-pas...

https://www.wsj.com/video/series/joanna-stern-personal-techn...

Re: About Stolen Device Protection for iPhone

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post #5
post #2

This took quite a while to get ready but I do believe it prevents 99.9% of the theft cases mentioned. I am downloading it right now.

Even if it prevents reselling the phone, it doesn't prevent the phone from being stolen. It would be a dumb criminal to leave you your phone to allow you to immediately call the police if you've been mugged. Just take the phone, trash it literally placing it in a bin or destroying it or both. At the end of the day, you still don't have the phone whether the thief profits from it or not. All this will do is prevent cr…

But it kind of does in a statistical measure.

If you think in the systems of how criminals work, they tend to spend more time stealing things they think will pay off. Taking something that will cost them time and not gain them money will over time bias thieves to not taking iphones.

For example it may prevent this

a) iphone is left on a table in the open.

but would not prevent

b) iphone is in a bag, bag gets stolen.

Re: About Stolen Device Protection for iPhone

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Is there a website that has a list of the steps you should take if your phone is stolen? My first instinct would be to use someone else's phone to google "what to do if your iPhone is stolen". But I wouldn't know how to determine if the instructions I was seeing were incomplete, or outdated. Is there a trusted, frequently-updated site that we can easily remember and plug into our friends' phone if and when this terri…

I have an Android phone, and a few months ago I left it behind in a Waymo autonomous vehicle.

Awhile ago, I added the "Find My Device" site to my bookmarks and I'd tested it out a few times. So I started there. And I also used Google Voice to place a voice call, so when it didn't ring in my home, I knew it wasn't here.

The Waymo passenger answered and there was much giggling. She kept saying she didn't know what to do. I said just leave it in the car.

So, knowing it was out of my control, I sent the remote wipe command, and hoped for the best. It turned out, the passenger also used the "Emergency Call" to send a text to my emergency contact. She offered to leave the phone in a pharmacy across town! I don't know how that would've helped.

Anyway, I did recover the phone at the Waymo Depot. It had obeyed the remote-wipe command and it was factory reset, with a full battery. It actually came out better-than-new, as the subsequent updates applied a few nice features.

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