Beeper Mini users find Macs banned from iMessage network
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Beeper Mini users find Macs banned from iMessage network
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Re: Beeper Mini users find Macs banned from iMessage network
#2Yeah this isn’t surprising, I’ve had this happen to hackintoshes over the years. Apple has always had the ability to ban serials from iMessage afaict, and it also (seemed) to be some automated process.
It was frankly pretty risky to tell people to use their real machines for this.
Re: Beeper Mini users find Macs banned from iMessage network
#3Never would have happened if instead users relied on Briar/Jami/Session/Tox on a Google Pixel running GrapheneOS.
This is an important lesson, take it to heart!
Re: Beeper Mini users find Macs banned from iMessage network
#4My take on this whole thing is that this is basically an elaborate plan to eventually use this in court against Apple to prove its anti-competitive practices.
If not for court, then at the least this is a press strategy orchestrated by someone with an interest in opening up the iMessage monopoly.
I’m sure the founder realized early on that the prospects of this becoming a valuable company on its own merits were slim - the vulnerability to Apple shutting them down was obvious. Which leads me to conclude he saw value to be created in just basically messing with Apple and forcing them to ban him.
Re: Beeper Mini users find Macs banned from iMessage network
#5Calling this “retaliation” is rather dramatic. There are a number of communication platforms that don’t allow 3rd party apps to access their networks and will ban people who attempt it.
Re: Beeper Mini users find Macs banned from iMessage network
#6My take on this whole thing is that this is basically an elaborate plan to eventually use this in court against Apple to prove its anti-competitive practices. If not for court, then at the least this is a press strategy orchestrated by someone with an interest in opening up the iMessage monopoly. I’m sure the founder realized early on that the prospects of this becoming a valuable company on its own merits were slim…
I’m genuinely surprised that this theory isn’t more pervasive.
I seldom buy into conspiracy theories but in this case I’d go a step further and suggest that Beeper Mini was secretly enabled in some way by other commercial entities incentivised to dismantle Apple’s walled garden. Maybe not from the start, but much more likely when the public game of cat and mouse kicked off.
Re: Beeper Mini users find Macs banned from iMessage network
#7Yeah this isn’t surprising, I’ve had this happen to hackintoshes over the years. Apple has always had the ability to ban serials from iMessage afaict, and it also (seemed) to be some automated process. It was frankly pretty risky to tell people to use their real machines for this.
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Re: Beeper Mini users find Macs banned from iMessage network
#8My take on this whole thing is that this is basically an elaborate plan to eventually use this in court against Apple to prove its anti-competitive practices. If not for court, then at the least this is a press strategy orchestrated by someone with an interest in opening up the iMessage monopoly. I’m sure the founder realized early on that the prospects of this becoming a valuable company on its own merits were slim…
I agree. There have always been highly skilled programmers capable of reverse engineering imessage, but everybody knew it would immediately get shutdown and not be worth the effort.
Re: Beeper Mini users find Macs banned from iMessage network
#9Never would have happened if instead users relied on Briar/Jami/Session/Tox on a Google Pixel running GrapheneOS. This is an important lesson, take it to heart!
Thus completely missing the point of this product’s entire existence and value proposition. This is not helpful and bordering on snarky. ‘Take note’ that people are well aware of the existence of other messaging services. They don’t want them. They want iMessage. The kid saying that they’re using “Tox on a Google Pixel running GrapheneOS” is sitting by themselves during recess whether you like it or not.
Re: Beeper Mini users find Macs banned from iMessage network
#10My take on this whole thing is that this is basically an elaborate plan to eventually use this in court against Apple to prove its anti-competitive practices. If not for court, then at the least this is a press strategy orchestrated by someone with an interest in opening up the iMessage monopoly. I’m sure the founder realized early on that the prospects of this becoming a valuable company on its own merits were slim…
That's definitely possible, the beeper mini case will be used in courts against Apple, that's for sure.