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Re: Sergey Brin's Clarification On Guardian article

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I'm glad he wasn't attacking Facebook and Apple in the way it was portrayed.

I think a key issue here is that powerful incumbent corporations have always challenged the economic freedoms of smaller players and individuals operating in their space.

In the heyday that Brin refers to, those powerful corporations hadn't yet emerged. Now they have. The biggest challenge to starting a new eBay today is eBay. The biggest challenge to starting a new Google today is Google.

Going forward, what matters is the extent that a platform economically empowers its participants to create additional value. Ideological openness is just one dimension in that.

Facebook, Apple, and Google all do empower their participants in different ways and with different tradeoffs, as do startups like Square and Kickstarter.

Re: Sergey Brin's Clarification On Guardian article

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Imagine Apple, Facebook or whoever controlled the Internet like Google does:

How long would it take until they abused their power?

If someone is dominating the web it's Google and looking at their power and how much traffic they move—their actions feel balanced and neutral compared to any other player.

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post #3

Imagine Apple, Facebook or whoever controlled the Internet like Google does: How long would it take until they abused their power? If someone is dominating the web it's Google and looking at their power and how much traffic they move—their actions feel balanced and neutral compared to any other player.

Part of what has put Google in their position as the gatekeeper is that the perception of being balanced and neutral. If search was more overtly biased, Bing would step in as the neutral player.

The more they consolidate their power, the less they seem constrained by this. I don't see anything that fundamentally distinguishes google from these other companies other than their present strategic position.

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What new "tollbooths and gatekeepers" is he talking about? If I wanted to start an online store or search engine today, who would I be paying?

I'm certainly not saying I agree with this wholeheartedly, but I think his point is that you wouldn't get very far without (my examples here) a Facebook and Twitter presence, and an iPhone and Android app.

Re: Sergey Brin's Clarification On Guardian article

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post #5
post #3

Imagine Apple, Facebook or whoever controlled the Internet like Google does: How long would it take until they abused their power? If someone is dominating the web it's Google and looking at their power and how much traffic they move—their actions feel balanced and neutral compared to any other player.

Part of what has put Google in their position as the gatekeeper is that the perception of being balanced and neutral. If search was more overtly biased, Bing would step in as the neutral player. The more they consolidate their power, the less they seem constrained by this. I don't see anything that fundamentally distinguishes google from these other companies other than their present strategic position.

Sorry, I don't get your point.

You can be successful with your product on the WWW without employing any Google services, being totally independent. If people and other sites like you and link back to you your traffic will quickly skyrocket—which feels natural. You are not obliged to use any Google service like GA. Just use the Internet and its open standards and you are ready to go because Google left the Internet's core like it is and didn't build a walled garden around it. That's the great thing about the web: it's decentralized and everybody can contribute, Google haven't tried to change this. That's why I don't like the native app trend with the appstore, all the innovation the Internet brought us are vanished by one central and strict entity and nobody cares, Android at least tries to emulate some parts of the net (i.e. by using intents, allowing multiple appstores, with the open nature of Android, etc.), Google is regarding their marketplace Play much more relaxed than Apple.

Looking at the Appstore or the Facebook API, there are so many rules which don't follow any of the core principles of the Internet. You have to play by these rules otherwise you are banned or completely and utterly dependent of one single entities. Moreover, if you then play by Apple's or Facebook's rules you still do not get the impact as from Google traffic-wise.

Ultimately, Google haven't entered the Chinese Market which shows the company's values. Every larger western corporation have build joint venture based branches in China—every corporation, except Google—and that's distinguishes Google.

Re: Sergey Brin's Clarification On Guardian article

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Pretty scary some of the proposed legislation being thrown around in the UK.

On large companies... If individuals have issues with large companies they can simply go to an alternative. However government should intervene to ensure "internet" companies comply with the same laws as "non internet".

Re: Sergey Brin's Clarification On Guardian article

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Refreshing response from Sergey. The Guardian article made him come off very immature.

The article brought to my mind a presentation Roger McNamee (Elevation Partners) has been circulating -"10 Hypothesis for Technology Investing."

A number of the points in the presentation illustrate a challenging future for Google:

- Index Search has peaked: Google's position of dominance on the web is fading, due largely in part to their own success.

- Apple's App Model Threatens the World Wide Web: a walled garden, un-indexable

- Rise of Social. Facebook owns. Again, a walled garden, un-indexable

- Lack of searches on mobile

Similar arguments were made in Wired's "The Web is Dead" feature, and they all point towards Google's core business going downhill.

The Guardian article made Sergey seem... well... butthurt. As if recognizing his lousy position, but instead of owning it, whining about it. I've always thought of Sergey as smarter than that. He's always seemed much more pragmatic than The Guardian article made him out to be. It didn't feel like the Sergey I [don't actually] know.

Certainly Sergey has gripes with Apple and Facebook, and certainly he has self-preserving motivations for responding as he did. But I feel like giving him more of the benefit of the doubt here and calling slight nanz on The Guardian for rabble-rousing as press outlets do.

Also - kudos to Sergey for his extremely diplomatic clarification there. We've all seen much less tactful responses to press spins.

10 Hypothesis Slides: http://read.bi/GMHoYQ

10 Hypothesis Video: http://bit.ly/w0qpeh

Re: Sergey Brin's Clarification On Guardian article

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Pretty scary some of the proposed legislation being thrown around in the UK. On large companies... If individuals have issues with large companies they can simply go to an alternative. However government should intervene to ensure "internet" companies comply with the same laws as "non internet".

Google's elaborate tax-avoidance schemes mean they forfeit the right to an opinion on what the UK government does.
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