Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
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Re: Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
#2Small differences in labor law make all the difference.
In Finland, Tesla repair shops follow the minimums stated in collective agreements and Musk probably don't even know about it. In Sweden it's issue for him.
Finland has generally applicable collective agreements where employers should observe at least the provisions of a national collective agreement considered representative in the relevant sector. When a collective agreement is nationwide and covers over 50% of the workforce in a relevant sector, it becomes generally applicable and binding even for companies that did not agree on the terms.
Re: Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
#3Tesla should leave the market and let Swedes buy automobiles from their own brands... like... err... Saab which no longer exists... or Volvo, which now belongs to a Chinese conglomerate...
Re: Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
#4Small differences in labor law make all the difference. In Finland, Tesla repair shops follow the minimums stated in collective agreements and Musk probably don't even know about it. In Sweden it's issue for him. Finland has generally applicable collective agreements where employers should observe at least the provisions of a national collective agreement considered representative in the relevant sector. When a colle…
According to Tesla, the agreement which employees have in Sweden is already better than the minimum bar set by union, so Teslas issues appears to more out of principle than out of actual issues with the agreement itself. Or Tesla is lying and the agreement with employees is not actually better.
Re: Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
#5Is PostNord like the post office or like fedex? If the former, that seems crazy to me. Imagine the post office just refused to deliver your electricity bill despite the electric company paying for a stamp. If it's the latter it makes a lot more sense.
Re: Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
#6Small differences in labor law make all the difference. In Finland, Tesla repair shops follow the minimums stated in collective agreements and Musk probably don't even know about it. In Sweden it's issue for him. Finland has generally applicable collective agreements where employers should observe at least the provisions of a national collective agreement considered representative in the relevant sector. When a colle…
According to Tesla, the agreement which employees have in Sweden is already better than the minimum bar set by union, so Teslas issues appears to more out of principle than out of actual issues with the agreement itself. Or Tesla is lying and the agreement with employees is not actually better.
Both parties act out of principles. The conflict is about power dynamics, first and foremost.
Re: Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
#7Tesla should leave the market and let Swedes buy automobiles from their own brands... like... err... Saab which no longer exists... or Volvo, which now belongs to a Chinese conglomerate...
If Tesla leave Sweden, we will still have many many brands to pick from. Here in Sweden we can buy cars from other companies.
Re: Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
#8Is PostNord like the post office or like fedex? If the former, that seems crazy to me. Imagine the post office just refused to deliver your electricity bill despite the electric company paying for a stamp. If it's the latter it makes a lot more sense.
They are the national postal service, successor to the old Posten AB (which just means “The Post, Ltd”), and before that Postverket (“The Post Agency”).
There is nothing strange about the notion of a postal strike, that's why the US has the USPS to begin with (its predecessor's employees went on strike and brought the US federal govt to its knees).
Re: Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
#9Tesla should leave the market and let Swedes buy automobiles from their own brands... like... err... Saab which no longer exists... or Volvo, which now belongs to a Chinese conglomerate...
Or, they could research the business climate and laws in a country before establishing a presence. Then feel free to buck established practice, but at least know the potential consequences.
Re: Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
#10Is PostNord like the post office or like fedex? If the former, that seems crazy to me. Imagine the post office just refused to deliver your electricity bill despite the electric company paying for a stamp. If it's the latter it makes a lot more sense.
It's the people who are on strike, not the company. Are people where you live not allowed to go on strike?