Laptops Powered by AA Batteries
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Re: Laptops Powered by AA Batteries
#2In some ways, I think it's a shame we didn't go to consumer goods run on Lithium batteries but in this form factor, with discrete charge management cards. So for instance, replacing the batteries in a Thinkpad could have been commoditised.
Bagged cells are damn good for small devices, but they do make it harder.
My Minidisc players were equally 'my battery, my form factor' as are most digital cameras. I guess some people (Dyson) cannot go past the opportunity to make accessories and replacements bound in them, at their price. After sales income is big.
Re: Laptops Powered by AA Batteries
#3Back when Mp3 players were a thing (before the iPod) Archos were making an MP3 player which took 4 AA, and the mail list for alternate runtime (rockbox) was full of discussions about NiMH trickle charging, approaches to maximising battery life, as were Apple Mouse conversations. People went wild for the most long lived, fastest recharge AA. In some ways, I think it's a shame we didn't go to consumer goods run on Lith…
Re: Laptops Powered by AA Batteries
#4Back when Mp3 players were a thing (before the iPod) Archos were making an MP3 player which took 4 AA, and the mail list for alternate runtime (rockbox) was full of discussions about NiMH trickle charging, approaches to maximising battery life, as were Apple Mouse conversations. People went wild for the most long lived, fastest recharge AA. In some ways, I think it's a shame we didn't go to consumer goods run on Lith…
I had the Archos Jukebox ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archos_Jukebox_series ) - so great - I remember the corner bumpers actually working pretty well. Thanks for the memories!
Re: Laptops Powered by AA Batteries
#5Back when Mp3 players were a thing (before the iPod) Archos were making an MP3 player which took 4 AA, and the mail list for alternate runtime (rockbox) was full of discussions about NiMH trickle charging, approaches to maximising battery life, as were Apple Mouse conversations. People went wild for the most long lived, fastest recharge AA. In some ways, I think it's a shame we didn't go to consumer goods run on Lith…
Re: Laptops Powered by AA Batteries
#6And I had the Amstrad PPC 512 portable which could also be powered by ten regular C-cells. It would eat NiCads by the hour.
And I also had the Sinclair Z88, which lasted about a week or two on a few AA batteries which I used all through college because laptops were new and bulky and the keyboards were noisy and so a number of professor's banned laptops, but the Z88 with its squishy dead-flesh keyboard was all but silent.
The great thing about the Z88 was everything was pre-loaded on to ROM, and your documents held in battery backed RAM for weeks at time, though you flash your files to the EEproms for safety. There was enough capacitance in the Z88 that if you pulled the batteries out to change them for fresh ones, you had about two or so minutes before the contents of RAM was lost.
A friend of mine, Ken, (who worked for Apple at the time) has a prototype Apple portable (pre-powerbook, IIc line I believe) that runs on C-cells. He keeps it on top of his fridge.
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#7Technically rechargeables existed. It was always cheaper right now to buy disposables, so of course, if you were a kid in a poor family, rechargeables probably did not exist.
Just complete madness buying disposable batteries on a monthly or weekly basis! I'm glad we don't have to do that anymore!
Re: Laptops Powered by AA Batteries
#8Back when Mp3 players were a thing (before the iPod) Archos were making an MP3 player which took 4 AA, and the mail list for alternate runtime (rockbox) was full of discussions about NiMH trickle charging, approaches to maximising battery life, as were Apple Mouse conversations. People went wild for the most long lived, fastest recharge AA. In some ways, I think it's a shame we didn't go to consumer goods run on Lith…
It sucks that we don't have a universal battery standard for lithium yet though. Seems like at the very least, the OSHW community should have one.
We could have separate charge and discharge pins, and I2C data, so everything stays chemistry-agnostic, and you could parallel two batteries just with diodes on the discharge pins.
You could have all the connections on one side, and only have one width, just different lengths, so the small ones fit anything with just a a spacer block.
Or you could even specify an integrated screw hole.
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#9AA batteries were insane back then. Technically rechargeables existed. It was always cheaper right now to buy disposables, so of course, if you were a kid in a poor family, rechargeables probably did not exist. Just complete madness buying disposable batteries on a monthly or weekly basis! I'm glad we don't have to do that anymore!
Poor kid from a poor family here, I switched entirely to NiCad AAs and AAAs in 1986 'because it was cheaper' to reuse the same batteries over and over.
I accidentally wiped a bootleg Guns and Roses concert tape by leaving it on top of my NiCad charger (bought from Maplins) once and somehow it had this huge magnetic field that rendered the tape to something that faded in and out in line with the angular position of the tape on the spool.
Today I have about 60 sets of NiMH AAs and AAAs, and still never seem to have a good set around when something needs it's batteries recharging. Today's chargers are a dream compared to the 80s though, I have 5 or 6 and they all have different pros and cons (eg my AccuCell is the 'overall best all around'; my Nitecore can resurrect cells that have gone below 0.7v, deep cycle cells, and handle 18650/14550; and my iMax can charge anything that even looks remotely like a battery)
edit: oh, and a shoutout to EBL for making awesome rechargable Li-Ion PP3s that are actually 9v and have a decent capacity, even if they do need a special charger.