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Goodbye Spotify

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Re: Goodbye Spotify

#2
Music consumption has basically never been in a better place. What Spotify pays artists, and how many employees at Bandcamp get laid off are minor, in the big picture.

My music consumption goes something like this:

1) Queue up a known band on Spotify. See what else similar to them Spotify puts into a playlist

2) Listen to the new music, decide what I like or don't like

3) Head over to Bandcamp or Discogs with the stuff I really like. Buy it in vinyl and DRM-free digital. Put it in my Subsonic server.

4) If it's not available, head to P2P app of choice - they always have it.

Yes, Bandcamp and Spotify might be ephemeral, but Spotify did wonders for discoverability - there are a lot of albums from tiny tiny bands I'd never have bought if it weren't for Spotify, and Bandcamp helped re-establish the market for physical, DRM-free media.

Music has never been in a better place. I finally get to have my cake and eat it too. What people are complaining about (Spotify not paying enough to smaller artists) is conveniently ignoring that I'd have never even heard of those artists 25 years ago, because they couldn't have paid for distribution. Spotify didn't reduce what artists make, they redisributed what I spend across way more, but smaller, bands.

Re: Goodbye Spotify

#3
I hate the podcast part of Spotify and vehemently disagree with their choice of high-paid hosts on there and would prefer that money to have gone to artists instead. That being said, I also enjoy some of their innovations and they've expanded my music tastes somewhat (and with questionable B or C artists...but that's also the point). Finally, I'd like to conclude by saying that I hate some of their defaults, wish they would make the UX 10x better and unify across platforms. P S. They do allow me to download my data from them, which I do regularly. Super cool, no hassles.

Re: Goodbye Spotify

#5
> Funny enough, the only easy way I found to buy music nowadays is vinyls.

Is there really a lot of music neither available on CD, nor for MP3 download, but on vinyl?

Re: Goodbye Spotify

#6
I have music on Spotify that I will be removing as well because of their decision not to pay out small artist streams under a certain amount.

I pay a distributor (distrokid) to send out music, and do not have a direct agreement with Spotify. As far as I'm concerned, monetizing my music without my consent is theft.

Their argument is that the stream amount is so low it ends up not being worth the transaction. On a moral level, I'd argue that it's their responsibility to pay out the money generated even if it costs them money to do so for a small number of streams.

This is estimated to generate $40m annually for them (which they've said they will be distributing to other artists instead), which isn't deeply significant, but this is money that is only generated because of small content creators that have uploaded their content to their distributor (which they pay for) which then distributes to spotify.

If I were to upload directly to Spotify for free, I'd consider the terms different, because I'd expect distribution as the exchange in the relationship. But in this case I pay a distributor, who then sends to spotify, who then decides to offer my content for free and pocket the money. Not acceptable for me.

(note: I consider this relevant to the original article because it is mentioned, as well as because it is one of the variables involved in music purchasing/accessing)

edit: corrected the $40m statement to show where money was going.

Re: Goodbye Spotify

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post #5

> Funny enough, the only easy way I found to buy music nowadays is vinyls. Is there really a lot of music neither available on CD, nor for MP3 download, but on vinyl?

Yeah, I thought that part was weird. I have not had too much trouble finding ways to for digital downloads. For Japanese bands I like, I have to do some weird shenanigans to get Japanese sites to let me pay them, but it's not like the digital downloads don't exist at all.

Re: Goodbye Spotify

#8
The spotify app has become so ridiculously bad I can't use it anymore. I found out about Zotify [1], which can rip my entire collection from spotify. The API rate limits anything faster than real time listening though, so it'll take a few weeks to download everything.

[1] https://zotify.xyz/

Re: Goodbye Spotify

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post #5

> Funny enough, the only easy way I found to buy music nowadays is vinyls. Is there really a lot of music neither available on CD, nor for MP3 download, but on vinyl?

Vinyl and cassette are the most common right now for physical-exclusive stuff. CD sales are very mixed- you can do well or barely sell at all, even for established names, and the startup costs for a pressing are higher than with tapes. And if it's on CD it might as well be a download anyway.

Re: Goodbye Spotify

#10
Very funny seeing this here as I've just bodged an internal DVD drive and SATA-to-USB connector to rip a Placebo CD I bought on eBay. My brother has been snickering about this for quite some time.
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