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Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by Nextgrid »

eamonnsullivan wrote: post #2

Here's the company's statement, which they've updated to accuse HA of, basically, DDOS: https://chamberlaingroup.com/press/a-message-about-our-decis...

Even if we assume that's true (I very much have my doubts), this is a totally self-inflicted problem as a result of bad design: there's no reason a garage door opener should rely on a remote server instead of local communication.

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by malermeister »

Nextgrid wrote: post #3
eamonnsullivan wrote: post #2

Here's the company's statement, which they've updated to accuse HA of, basically, DDOS: https://chamberlaingroup.com/press/a-message-about-our-decis...

Even if we assume that's true (I very much have my doubts), this is a totally self-inflicted problem as a result of bad design: there's no reason a garage door opener should rely on a remote server instead of local communication.

If it's not on a remote server, then how would you know when people leave/arrive at their homes? You'd miss out on so much sweet, monetizable personal information. Won't anyone think of corporate profits???

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by dathinab »

can we just make non-sens like that illegal

no one has time for it

you bought the device you should own it

it's not even anything fancy where you could argue that continuous software updated need to be done or similar

also pass a law that all smart home devices had to go through a hub, no direct internet connection allowed, uh put it under "reducing DDOS potential due to long term issues with internet connected smart home device security"

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by TeMPOraL »

From company statement:

> Our customers rely on us to make access simple without sacrificing quality and reliability. Unauthorized app integrations, stemming from only 0.2% of myQ users, previously accounted for more than half of the traffic to and from the myQ system, and at times constituted a substantial DDOS event that consumed high quantities of resources.

Yeah, that sounds plausible, because:

- Home Assistant users are power users, thus more likely to actually use the devices in question;

- Official IoT software and integrations are uniformly shit, designed to discourage effective use (while maximizing data collection).

Thus, I read this statement as: "We're not happy that some of our customers decided to actually use the 'smart'/'connected' aspects of our product; our service-providing part was not ready to provide the service, and unlike the data collection part, it was never intended to."

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by pjc50 »

dathinab wrote: post #6

can we just make non-sens like that illegal no one has time for it you bought the device you should own it it's not even anything fancy where you could argue that continuous software updated need to be done or similar also pass a law that all smart home devices had to go through a hub, no direct internet connection allowed, uh put it under "reducing DDOS potential due to long term issues with internet connected smart…

The problem is it's routed through a central server.

> all smart home devices had to go through a hub

I think ultimately this is the only way to get it to even work properly, let alone last long enough that the next purchaser of a smart home can use it reliably. But it will also slow innovation and Big Tech will hate it.

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