A Grand Theft Auto III Re-Implementation

wicket wrote: post #4

It's worth pointing out that this project has not seen active development for a couple of years, since Take-Two sued the developers: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26199879 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28402640

Aren't those links about a completely different project with a completely different name?

Re: A Grand Theft Auto III Re-Implementation

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Post by oynqr » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 9:28 PM UTC

the_player wrote: post #2

To save everyone the trouble – the last commit is 2 years old.

Around the time re3 got public interest.

Re: A Grand Theft Auto III Re-Implementation

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Post by Philpax » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 9:33 PM UTC

Hamuko wrote: post #5

wicket wrote: post #4

It's worth pointing out that this project has not seen active development for a couple of years, since Take-Two sued the developers: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26199879 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28402640

Aren't those links about a completely different project with a completely different name?

That's correct - OpenRW is a from-scratch reimplementation of GTA3, while re3 is a manual decompilation that's capable of reproducing the original executable (or something very close to it). Both projects are very impressive in their own right.

When re3 went public, OpenRW archived their repository; when re3 was DMCA'd, OpenRW unarchived their repository; and when re3 was sued, OpenRW ceased development.

(This is based on my recollection from observing this two years ago - there may be other factors involved)

Re: A Grand Theft Auto III Re-Implementation

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Post by wicket » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 9:39 PM UTC

Hamuko wrote: post #5

wicket wrote: post #4

It's worth pointing out that this project has not seen active development for a couple of years, since Take-Two sued the developers: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26199879 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28402640

Aren't those links about a completely different project with a completely different name?

You are right, however it's likely that OpenRW was also impacted by Take-Two's actions towards Re3 given that its development also ceased around the same time.

Re: A Grand Theft Auto III Re-Implementation

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Post by colechristensen » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 9:41 PM UTC

gardenhedge wrote: post #3

"GTA 3 is no longer available on the steam store"

It wasn’t for a while, they released a “definitive edition” which is available. They took the old versions down somewhat prematurely before releasing the remasters. A small number of people got some attention being disproportionally upset about this.

Re: A Grand Theft Auto III Re-Implementation

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Post by powersurge360 » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 9:44 PM UTC

colechristensen wrote: post #9

gardenhedge wrote: post #3

"GTA 3 is no longer available on the steam store"

It wasn’t for a while, they released a “definitive edition” which is available. They took the old versions down somewhat prematurely before releasing the remasters. A small number of people got some attention being disproportionally upset about this.

This minimizes things a bit. The definitive editions got torn apart for being ugly and poorly developed. It was a better experience to use the originals and mod them in many cases. This original version is still not available and people are still upset about it. Looks like the DE version of GTAIII currently has a 6 out of 10 on steam so it probably hasn’t been improved since release.