I2P: End-to-end encrypted and anonymous internet
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Re: I2P: End-to-end encrypted and anonymous internet
#2Related:
Invisible Internet Project (I2P) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25734254 - Jan 2021 (23 comments)
Kovri – A secure, private, untraceable C++ implementation of the I2P network - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14963044 - Aug 2017 (53 comments)
I2P-Bote – Email plugin for the I2P network that uses a distributed hash table -https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14236331 - May 2017 (20 comments)
I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12022917 - July 2016 (56 comments)
Re: I2P: End-to-end encrypted and anonymous internet
#3I really like I2P as a project, and I think it gets a lot of things right. For example having every network participant relay some internal traffic, instead of relying on altruism from relay operators, makes it much harder for a single entity to control enough hops to deanonymize users.
Sadly, outside of torrenting I2P doesn't seem to have much traction, losing out to the better funded tor project
Re: I2P: End-to-end encrypted and anonymous internet
#4I really like I2P as a project, and I think it gets a lot of things right. For example having every network participant relay some internal traffic, instead of relying on altruism from relay operators, makes it much harder for a single entity to control enough hops to deanonymize users. Sadly, outside of torrenting I2P doesn't seem to have much traction, losing out to the better funded tor project
Torrenting is I2P's foot in the door for much wider adoption, which would help drive other types of usage. I really hope it takes off, especially since qBitTorrent 4.6 just integrated support; the current stagnation of filesharing, especially w.r.t. needing a VPN for everything, needs some shaking up.
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#5How straightforward is it to create new circuits using I2P? I'm curious whether this is supported by the API and the time it takes.
For context, I'm developing a voting system [1] where votes are signed pseudonymously and must be transmitted over an anonymous channel. Additionally, it's vital that no two pseudonyms use the same anonymous channel, as this would weaken the anonymity.
[1]: https://janiserdmanis.org/artefacts/EVOTEID-2023-poster.pdf
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#6Years ago I tried I2P to test the limits of anonymity it can provide. It’s sad that it doesn’t seem to have much funding, because it’s far superior to Tor by all means. The guys worked really hard on the theory before implementing it. Still, the UX of the router was really bad. It really needs a standalone binary to work flawlessly and performantly across all platforms, not to mention the need for a GUI which doesn’t require you to know many technical concepts beforehand. Current router is written in Java, and I hoped i2p-rust would catch up, but it seemed a half-dead project.
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#7Reminds me of Zeronet. It was quite popular for some time.
Re: I2P: End-to-end encrypted and anonymous internet
#8Years ago I tried I2P to test the limits of anonymity it can provide. It’s sad that it doesn’t seem to have much funding, because it’s far superior to Tor by all means. The guys worked really hard on the theory before implementing it. Still, the UX of the router was really bad. It really needs a standalone binary to work flawlessly and performantly across all platforms, not to mention the need for a GUI which doesn’t…
Well, there's no problems with Java, except, as you said, willingness of volunteers to support it. It's much easier to inspire people to try a shiny new language.
However, I would say that Rust/Go already moving out of the spotlight for that purpose. For the hype we'd look towards Zig or Nim or something I've yet to hear.
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#9I could never work out how to use this in the past. Has it gotten any easier to use? Tor made things a lot easier.
Re: I2P: End-to-end encrypted and anonymous internet
#10I could never work out how to use this in the past. Has it gotten any easier to use? Tor made things a lot easier.
This has been my experience as well, which is a bummer because I think hidden services are the best part of Tor, and my understanding is that I2P is basically designed with hidden service like features in mind from the ground up.