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EU member states still cannot agree about end-to-end encryption

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Re: EU member states still cannot agree about end-to-end encryption

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> “Ideally, in our view,” they say, “it would be desirable to legislatively prevent EU-based service providers from implementing end-to-end encryption.”

- Spain

It is hard to even comment on in idea that extreme. The rest of us are lucky the EU has failed so comprehensively at establishing a global tech presence.

Re: EU member states still cannot agree about end-to-end encryption

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> “Ideally, in our view,” they say, “it would be desirable to legislatively prevent EU-based service providers from implementing end-to-end encryption.” - Spain It is hard to even comment on in idea that extreme. The rest of us are lucky the EU has failed so comprehensively at establishing a global tech presence.

The EU don't have a monopoly on dumb laws.

> The rest of us are lucky the EU has failed so comprehensively at establishing a global tech presence.

Lots of us think that the world would be better if tech companies didn't play so fast and loose with our data, and were better regulated.

Re: EU member states still cannot agree about end-to-end encryption

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> “Ideally, in our view,” they say, “it would be desirable to legislatively prevent EU-based service providers from implementing end-to-end encryption.” - Spain It is hard to even comment on in idea that extreme. The rest of us are lucky the EU has failed so comprehensively at establishing a global tech presence.

After Snowden I wouldn’t consider ourselves lucky

Re: EU member states still cannot agree about end-to-end encryption

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> “Ideally, in our view,” they say, “it would be desirable to legislatively prevent EU-based service providers from implementing end-to-end encryption.” - Spain It is hard to even comment on in idea that extreme. The rest of us are lucky the EU has failed so comprehensively at establishing a global tech presence.

The EU don't have a monopoly on dumb laws. > The rest of us are lucky the EU has failed so comprehensively at establishing a global tech presence. Lots of us think that the world would be better if tech companies didn't play so fast and loose with our data, and were better regulated.

No end-to-end encryption means they have more data though.

Re: EU member states still cannot agree about end-to-end encryption

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> “Ideally, in our view,” they say, “it would be desirable to legislatively prevent EU-based service providers from implementing end-to-end encryption.” - Spain It is hard to even comment on in idea that extreme. The rest of us are lucky the EU has failed so comprehensively at establishing a global tech presence.

Spain has been traditionally and particularly idiotic about tech legislation. Some examples:

- There was (and is) a fee on every CD-R, DVD-R, BR-R, hard drive, SSD, printer... as a "just in case it happens to store/copy copyright-protected material at some point ever" fee [0].

- They forced link aggregators to pay newspapers/sites for linking to their content, even just using their tags. [1].

So such insane statement comes as an absolute non-surprise to anyone who's followed Spanish tech legislation for a while.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociedad_General_de_Autores_y_...

[1] https://pressgazette.co.uk/platforms/google-news-spain-faceb...

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