I Hope the Supreme Court finds the Affordable Care Act Unconstitutional
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#2Some people aren't in a position to take on the risk of entrepreneurship. Counting those with significant medical conditions among them doesn't strike me as abnormal.
If society is geared to reward risk takers who succeed, it seems that if society were then to eliminate a good deal of that risk, something in the arrangement would be lost.
How is universal healthcare any different to start ups than a government funded insurance policy that pays a modest amount when your startup fails?
My friend drives a nice sports car. He's outraged at the cost of dental work. He thinks dental care should be free to Americans. How is that any different that government subsidized sports cars?
Re: I Hope the Supreme Court finds the Affordable Care Act Unconstitutional
#3Healthcare isn't a right. End of story.
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#4What are the chances that if the Affordable Health Care act is found unconstitutional that America gets universal health care in the next decade?
Re: I Hope the Supreme Court finds the Affordable Care Act Unconstitutional
#5Healthcare isn't a right. End of story.
At the same time, America treats emergency healthcare as a right and then the rest of society pays those bills.
It's probably cheaper for people to get care before it gets to the emergency level. It certainly results in better quality of life.
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#6Your friend is doing it wrong.
Instead of shelling out 17k/year, get a 5k deductible policy, and pay for the doctor visits yourself. put the 5-10k you save per year in some sort of investment you can get at when you really have to. Something like an index fund if you're young, or bonds if you're older.
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#7What are the chances that if the Affordable Health Care act is found unconstitutional that America gets universal health care in the next decade?
You could always go for the European-style universal healthcare, where the Government pays for everything. You'll need to have higher taxes, though, or cut some of that military/war budget.
Re: I Hope the Supreme Court finds the Affordable Care Act Unconstitutional
#8Healthcare isn't a right. End of story.
If this statement is a fact it will have evidence, and if it is an opinion it will have a justification. A productive discussion will necessarily have one or the other.
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#9IANAL and I have not read the complete unabridged text of the bill but so far as I can tell the only piece that is likely unconstitutional is the individual mandate, correct? The commerce clause can be very powerful provided commerce is already taking place but I am not aware of precedent allowing it to coerce one into commerce in the first place.
Is there such a precedent? Would the existence of such a precedent be a good thing in the long term? I'm inclined to support this bill 100% but I just don't know what kind of effect this could have on businesses in the future.
Re: I Hope the Supreme Court finds the Affordable Care Act Unconstitutional
#10What are the chances that if the Affordable Health Care act is found unconstitutional that America gets universal health care in the next decade?
You could always go for the European-style universal healthcare, where the Government pays for everything. You'll need to have higher taxes, though, or cut some of that military/war budget.
A rarely talked about fact is that the US government already spends more per-capita on health care than European governments do. (No, really!)
So actually, it's perfectly possible for the US to enact universal healthcare and cut overall healthcare spending at the same time.
(Also, minor quibble, but when you say "Government pays for everything" you're really talking about "free at the point of use" healthcare. That's one system of universal healthcare used in Europe - and elsewhere - but not the most common one.)