The death throes of an industry
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The death throes of an industry
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Re: The death throes of an industry
#2Your formatting got screwed on a copy/paste I assume, bit difficult to read.
Re: The death throes of an industry
#3Your formatting got screwed on a copy/paste I assume, bit difficult to read.
Indeed it was, thank you for noticing that, it should be fixed now.
Re: The death throes of an industry
#4Your formatting got screwed on a copy/paste I assume, bit difficult to read.
Couldn't all of the mobile apps our friends are writing fit onto that same disk drive? With room to spare for the source code to Facebook and Google? Does that indicate that the entire intellectual property business is in its "death throes"?
You could also include all the credit card numbers and ACH information for all the accounts in the world on that same drive. I guess that means its OK to use those numbers?
How can so many software guys really believe that their bits are more valuable than the bits created by media companies? Or that stealing is "ok" just because it's easy if you know how?
The media industry has done a shit job of making its product easy to buy or making money ad supported. They're in decline because they have done such a bad job adapting. But someone will figure it out.
Entertainment will definitely evolve, but it won't go away. There's a lot more to learn reading pg's request for ideas than reading pro-piracy posts like this that seem to litter hacker news.
Re: The death throes of an industry
#5Your formatting got screwed on a copy/paste I assume, bit difficult to read.
Couldn't all of the mobile apps our friends are writing fit onto that same disk drive? With room to spare for the source code to Facebook and Google? Does that indicate that the entire intellectual property business is in its "death throes"? You could also include all the credit card numbers and ACH information for all the accounts in the world on that same drive. I guess that means its OK to use those numbers? How c…
The big difference is between stuff that you release and stuff that you don't.
Once released bits become common knowledge and they lose a large amount of their potential value because the scarcity element is instantly gone.
This is one of the driving engines behind the the whole software-as-a-service game, it gets rid of the problem of piracy and it turns the product into a subscription rather than a one-time sale.
No second hand version of google docs will ever be sold.
Re: The death throes of an industry
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
Couldn't all of the mobile apps our friends are writing fit onto that same disk drive? With room to spare for the source code to Facebook and Google? Does that indicate that the entire intellectual property business is in its "death throes"? You could also include all the credit card numbers and ACH information for all the accounts in the world on that same drive. I guess that means its OK to use those numbers? How c…
The big difference is between stuff that you release and stuff that you don't. Once released bits become common knowledge and they lose a large amount of their potential value because the scarcity element is instantly gone. This is one of the driving engines behind the the whole software-as-a-service game, it gets rid of the problem of piracy and it turns the product into a subscription rather than a one-time sale. N…
Paid mobile apps are widely released, and people I know make a living selling them. Is anyone who buys a mobile app a chump?
And what about the ACH information? If you came across that sort of data you would feel free to use it to transfer a few million bucks to your own account? It would be just as easy as copying a movie. So if the data is out there, you are arguing that it's OK to do that?
Re: The death throes of an industry
#7I'm not convinced this is a global issue. Here in Israel, many local TV shows are freely available on the internet, including the ever-popular Eretz Nehederet.
Plenty of Israelis pirate content, but the local media industry seems to be doing fine. I can't recall any attempts to crack down on pirates, let alone attempts to pass draconian anti-piracy legislation.
This is all anecdotal. If someone knows where to find the data supporting or contradicting this, please post.
Re: The death throes of an industry
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
The big difference is between stuff that you release and stuff that you don't. Once released bits become common knowledge and they lose a large amount of their potential value because the scarcity element is instantly gone. This is one of the driving engines behind the the whole software-as-a-service game, it gets rid of the problem of piracy and it turns the product into a subscription rather than a one-time sale. N…
Paid mobile apps are widely released, and people I know make a living selling them. Is anyone who buys a mobile app a chump? And what about the ACH information? If you came across that sort of data you would feel free to use it to transfer a few million bucks to your own account? It would be just as easy as copying a movie. So if the data is out there, you are arguing that it's OK to do that?
> Paid mobile apps are widely released, and people I know make a living selling them. Is anyone who buys a mobile app a chump?
You used google and facebook as an example, they are clearly not releasing binaries but are in the service industry. Mobile applications (which I think are a transient phenomenon that will evaporate when mobile web applications will be more viable, the same happened with desktop software, with some notable exceptions) are already pirated wholesale (see http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20107572-94/how-piracy-ruin...) that doesn't make the writers of mobile software 'chumps', but it does mean that they will have to factor this in or they will likely be hurt.
> It would be just as easy as copying a movie, and the data is out there, so you are arguing that it's OK to do that?
No, obviously I'm not arguing that it is ok to do that.
Re: The death throes of an industry
#9I'm not convinced this is a global issue. Here in Israel, many local TV shows are freely available on the internet, including the ever-popular Eretz Nehederet. Plenty of Israelis pirate content, but the local media industry seems to be doing fine. I can't recall any attempts to crack down on pirates, let alone attempts to pass draconian anti-piracy legislation. This is all anecdotal. If someone knows where to find th…
I'm not convinced this is a global issue.
I wouldn't be so sure.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-1735520...
Re: The death throes of an industry
#10This is big talk, but in the meantime I went to the gym the other day and checked out the movies for sale and bought a Blu-Ray of the Truman Show for $7.99.
I went home and played it, there were no annoying trailers or anything. Me, my son, and the reporter who's always writing about our coven in the newspaper all watched it and had a great time.
Hollywood offers consumers many chump choices (like bloated cable packages) but it also offers good value too.
Hollywood leads the world in producing compelling content and it's always been smart about turning it into money -- I'm sure things are going to change in the next 20 years, but odds are good that some fraction of Hollywood is going to stay on top.