Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
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Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
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Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#2This is a marvelous piece of analysis of the "current" traditional educational landscape. Seems like things only got worse over 40 years ...
Treating the problems of education indeed transcends the school and actually requires a great deal of political will and power. "Education" must guide politics and have power over it.
And such a deep change in perspective and "economics" is just not conceivable within the realms of the modern society as it is now. It requires a deep change in method and people. And the latter circles back to education, which makes it a hopeless loop ...
The only way to break it is to do "education" outside the realms of school, to target a "minority" (to be practical not to segregate), and to fight and work for a change that will make education central and at the top of society.
P.S: By Education, I don't merely mean instruction. It's a holistic and profound change in a human being ... that it aims to create
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#3This is a marvelous piece of analysis of the "current" traditional educational landscape. Seems like things only got worse over 40 years ... Treating the problems of education indeed transcends the school and actually requires a great deal of political will and power. "Education" must guide politics and have power over it. And such a deep change in perspective and "economics" is just not conceivable within the realms…
> Treating the problems of education indeed transcends the school and actually requires a great deal of political will and power. "Education" must guide politics and have power over it.
Isn't the problem that we are mixing education and politics in the first place?
We should probably separate education and the state just as much as we separate church and state.
(The touch of politics seldom enhances the quality of anything. The further your chosen activity is from politics, the easier it is to improve quietly improve it.
Eg even just to stick to learning: Wikipedia and StackOverflow are great. And so are lots of great how-to books and freely available videos. They are as far removed from politics as it gets.)
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#4Is this a counterpoint to the openai ai for education discussion?
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#5This is a marvelous piece of analysis of the "current" traditional educational landscape. Seems like things only got worse over 40 years ... Treating the problems of education indeed transcends the school and actually requires a great deal of political will and power. "Education" must guide politics and have power over it. And such a deep change in perspective and "economics" is just not conceivable within the realms…
> Treating the problems of education indeed transcends the school and actually requires a great deal of political will and power. "Education" must guide politics and have power over it. Isn't the problem that we are mixing education and politics in the first place? We should probably separate education and the state just as much as we separate church and state. (The touch of politics seldom enhances the quality of an…
I meant the needs of the education should guide "political" decisions.
A simple example is that the education budget (percentage) should be in two digits!!
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#6tl;dr if you provide each student with the appropriate kind and quality of instruction and the amount of time available for learning then the majority of students will achieve mastery.
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#7This is a marvelous piece of analysis of the "current" traditional educational landscape. Seems like things only got worse over 40 years ... Treating the problems of education indeed transcends the school and actually requires a great deal of political will and power. "Education" must guide politics and have power over it. And such a deep change in perspective and "economics" is just not conceivable within the realms…
> 40 years
Sadly its almost 60 years :)
Education tendencies seem to be incredibly latent and they have huge inertia. For example in The Netherlands the amount of languages you speak used to be a measure for intelligence, so most schools teach 4 languages from the age of 12 (out of 9 subject 4 are languages). In the same time, languages are the easiest to test, and also the easiest to progress a mass of people. The easiest thing to test (and show improvement and etc) in the bloom pyramid is memory.
You surely have people trying their hardest, like Julius Miller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s9psf01ldo (1964) or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3szmCF8-L8 but the system does not seem to respond to them/
But it seems the education institution is not trying to teach people anything.
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#8This is a marvelous piece of analysis of the "current" traditional educational landscape. Seems like things only got worse over 40 years ... Treating the problems of education indeed transcends the school and actually requires a great deal of political will and power. "Education" must guide politics and have power over it. And such a deep change in perspective and "economics" is just not conceivable within the realms…
> Treating the problems of education indeed transcends the school and actually requires a great deal of political will and power. "Education" must guide politics and have power over it. Isn't the problem that we are mixing education and politics in the first place? We should probably separate education and the state just as much as we separate church and state. (The touch of politics seldom enhances the quality of an…
If you look at everything from "Monicagate" (not the Clinton one!) to the recent moderator strike over AI-generated answers, StackOverflow is not as apolitical as you suggest?
But to engage with your main point - I agree, and we can take Germany as an example here.
During the Nazi period, everything was put in service of politics, so in math class you'd answer questions like "calculate how many extra hard-working German families we could support if we the state didn't have to spend so-and-so-many Reichsmarks per Jew".
Since 1945, there's been a strong tradition to keep politics out of math and science education in Germany, and this seems to be mostly holding even in face of "social justice" pressure.
Keeping politics out of "is Phonics a good teaching method?" would also have been a great idea in the English-speaking world.
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Treating the problems of education indeed transcends the school and actually requires a great deal of political will and power. "Education" must guide politics and have power over it. Isn't the problem that we are mixing education and politics in the first place? We should probably separate education and the state just as much as we separate church and state. (The touch of politics seldom enhances the quality of an…
If you look at everything from "Monicagate" (not the Clinton one!) to the recent moderator strike over AI-generated answers, StackOverflow is not as apolitical as you suggest? But to engage with your main point - I agree, and we can take Germany as an example here. During the Nazi period, everything was put in service of politics, so in math class you'd answer questions like "calculate how many extra hard-working Ger…
I teach at a German University and I have never in a decade perceived even the slightest scintilla of any student creating "social justice pressure" in any of my or the classes of my collegues.
Whenever there was a social justice topic that made the waves, it was typically about some prof who legitimately acted like full blown asshole and thought everybody else has to put up with their ego — if anything disrupted education in that case, it was them, and the student's demands were basically a totally understandable demand to not have that guys ego get into the way of their education.
As I am working at a liberal art school you would think I probably have witnessed the worst already, but I didn't. Concerns about "social justice"-people putting pressure on us always come from people who got no idea and are out of the educational field for a while. As of now I am nearly convinced that this is probably a collective mind virus that is 99% fiction (and the 1% where it is true has so little impact it doesn't even matter).
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#10A more legible copy with selectable text:
https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED053419.pdf