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How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Look at the incentives. Dating apps want you to keep paying. That means they don't want you to meet someone worth entering a long-term rrlationship with. They want you to have just enough success to stay a customer. The occasional, not-awful date.

Like playing the slots: you get occasional, small payouts, and you hear about other people winning jackpots (oops, they slipped up), so you keep putting money in.

A believable service needs to align its interests with yours, in some believable way.

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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I've used Hinge a lot as a heterosexual male, and it's pretty obvious they want dudes to pay for Roses to message attractive girls. For me and most of my friends who have used it, the disparity between the normal, free feed and the "Standouts", for which one must use Roses, is comical.

I don't see how that's too mysterious, and, for the most part, I don't hold it against Hinge, which has to try to make money.

edit: also, the other thing I forgot to say, is that I have also just keep deleting and recreating my account for every dating app. I don't do that to "game the algorithms" for these apps, though that may be a secondary benefit. I do it because I get tired of them, find them toxic/unhealthy, etc. I kind of just assumed most people did that, and I bet if the author's friend just shrugged and did that in the first instance instead of alleging foul play and conspiracy, they would have had a better time.

IIRC, Hinge always starts off by showing a good number of very attractive people in the main feed regardless, which I always assumed was partly to impress a new user with how worthwhile the app is, as well as trying to figure out how attractive the user is by seeing if attractive people respond to them.

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Look at the incentives. Dating apps want you to keep paying. That means they don't want you to meet someone worth entering a long-term rrlationship with. They want you to have just enough success to stay a customer. The occasional, not-awful date. Like playing the slots: you get occasional, small payouts, and you hear about other people winning jackpots (oops, they slipped up), so you keep putting money in. A believa…

When I used Hinge, I never saw a reason to pay for it. Match is basically useless without paying and for Bumble it also helps to pay. Not so much with Hinge.

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Look at the incentives. Dating apps want you to keep paying. That means they don't want you to meet someone worth entering a long-term rrlationship with. They want you to have just enough success to stay a customer. The occasional, not-awful date. Like playing the slots: you get occasional, small payouts, and you hear about other people winning jackpots (oops, they slipped up), so you keep putting money in. A believa…

This erroneously believes that the owners think the following:

1- it is possible to completely tap the dating market and long term customers are necessary

2- customers all have a similar threshold at which they are just-successful enough to stay engaged long term

Neither of these things are true. The more people "win the jackpot", per your analogy, the more people will use the platform. The market is big enough they don't need to fool you into paying to be unsuccessful.

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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I downloaded Tinder right after I got single, back in 2015? It was glorious. It really did feel fun and exciting - I'm by no means a model-looking dude, but I got hundreds of matches in a fairly small place (think city with population of 50k), and people just felt more genuine and interested on the various apps back then.

Next time around I tried Tinder et. al. was a couple of years later(2018/2019), and I immediately noticed less matches, less convos, and the app being more pushy.

I recently, as in this year, tried some of the apps again...it's a total shit show, to be honest.

I've never tried any apps that applied so many dark patterns. It all feels like one big funnel where the goal is to extract money off you through gold memberships, boosting, extra swipes, and what not. I noticed "fake" notices, spammy notices, just a constant barrage of notices and messages NOT from actual people.

After a couple of days I concluded that most (all?) of these dating apps are pay-to-play. You start off with some initial amount of matches, which drop off sharply - then nothing. I asked a friend in the same room if she could see me on Tinder, but no dice, I didn't even show up on her feed - though she came up on mine.

These apps used to be easy and fun - now they just feel like the most pushy and parasitic apps out there.

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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I've used Hinge a lot as a heterosexual male, and it's pretty obvious they want dudes to pay for Roses to message attractive girls. For me and most of my friends who have used it, the disparity between the normal, free feed and the "Standouts", for which one must use Roses, is comical. I don't see how that's too mysterious, and, for the most part, I don't hold it against Hinge, which has to try to make money. edit: a…

I think the standouts are generally people who are highly liked/rated. Id see a lot of people there before & after I saw them in my normal feed. Roses just give an escape hatch for pay to play but they’ll show up in your feed normally if the recommendation system thinks so.

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Look at the incentives. Dating apps want you to keep paying. That means they don't want you to meet someone worth entering a long-term rrlationship with. They want you to have just enough success to stay a customer. The occasional, not-awful date. Like playing the slots: you get occasional, small payouts, and you hear about other people winning jackpots (oops, they slipped up), so you keep putting money in. A believa…

This is a bit paranoid - if no one found good matches through these services, no one would ever use them. It definitely sucks if you are on the losing end of the dating spectrum, but some of those people seem to have some sort of belief that they are entitled to dates, when they aren't. If you weren't getting action in real life, I don't think it's likely that people are going to be more desirous of you online. I've used these services and have had plenty of matches and luck, without ever needing to pay for it, with some of the matches working out for years(I don't blame the dating apps that we didn't get married), so I can't really agree with your perspective at all.
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