Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
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Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
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Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
#2Link to the proposed bill (French)
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/dossierlegislatif/JORFDOLE000...
Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
#3It would be nice if Mozilla would add more context around it.
That said, it’s freaking exhausting how these dumb actions keep being taken by governments all over the world.
It seems like every month there’s some new crap going on
Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
#4It would be nice if Mozilla would add more context around it. That said, it’s freaking exhausting how these dumb actions keep being taken by governments all over the world. It seems like every month there’s some new crap going on
Yes indeed! is this enforced DRM everywhere or you can't browse? is this a forced french MITM certificate chain you can't remove, is this something else? how does using Tor with a non-french exit node get impacted? If I ssh over port 80 or any other to a french-located box does something change?
Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
#5It would be nice if Mozilla would add more context around it. That said, it’s freaking exhausting how these dumb actions keep being taken by governments all over the world. It seems like every month there’s some new crap going on
Here's the context: the fr gov's been acting against national interest for more than 20 years in a row. The people know it. The gov knows the people know. The gov wants to pretend it's not doing anything wrong.
It could keep pretending credibly, if only people would keep their trap shut on the web.
So now gov wants to control what people can see and say on the web.
Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
#6I have less than zero idea what's going on here? I understand the broad topic but exactly what is France demanding? A list of blocked URLs browsers should refuse to render? A list of IPs that are forbidden (doesn't make sense since that can be handled at ISP or OS level). Blocked words/phrases (trivially bypassed by people who have the list and can iterate on text until allowed)? Blocked links? Input fields that prevent certain words from being posted? French Academy policing use of loanwords and requiring use of the blessed words? What exactly is this about?
Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
#7It would be nice if Mozilla would add more context around it. That said, it’s freaking exhausting how these dumb actions keep being taken by governments all over the world. It seems like every month there’s some new crap going on
Here's the context: the fr gov's been acting against national interest for more than 20 years in a row. The people know it. The gov knows the people know. The gov wants to pretend it's not doing anything wrong. It could keep pretending credibly, if only people would keep their trap shut on the web. So now gov wants to control what people can see and say on the web.
This is extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence! This looks more like a whack-a-mole "for the children" misguided initiative, not a great firewall of China... Do you have more context?
Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
#8If Mozilla doesn't have employees or a nexus in France, they could just ignore this law.
Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's the context: the fr gov's been acting against national interest for more than 20 years in a row. The people know it. The gov knows the people know. The gov wants to pretend it's not doing anything wrong. It could keep pretending credibly, if only people would keep their trap shut on the web. So now gov wants to control what people can see and say on the web.
This is extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence! This looks more like a whack-a-mole "for the children" misguided initiative, not a great firewall of China... Do you have more context?
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Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
#10It would be nice if Mozilla would add more context around it. That said, it’s freaking exhausting how these dumb actions keep being taken by governments all over the world. It seems like every month there’s some new crap going on
Here's the context: the fr gov's been acting against national interest for more than 20 years in a row. The people know it. The gov knows the people know. The gov wants to pretend it's not doing anything wrong. It could keep pretending credibly, if only people would keep their trap shut on the web. So now gov wants to control what people can see and say on the web.
> "The people know it."
Why do I have strong vibes that a better way of phrasing this is "a percentage of the people who thinks the fr gov's been acting against national interest (likely the people who think /their/ interest aligns with the national interest quite closely) knows it."
I mean, I don't know France and I'm no friend with "the government" and I oppose turning browsers into anything they are not supposed to be, but that "the government" can go against "national interest" for 20 year and "the people" know it is such a trite story that... uuuuugh. In short, you added no context at all.