The OpenTF Manifesto

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Post by CathalMullan » Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 12:19 PM UTC

Re: The OpenTF Manifesto

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Post by onedr0p » Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 1:14 PM UTC

There is zero chance of Hashicorp donating Terraform to an open source foundation. If there was they would have never even considered this change in license. Honestly it's not a bad thing, maybe the maintainers of the Terraform fork will actually listen to feedback from the community of people who use it instead of ignoring them.

Re: The OpenTF Manifesto

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Post by datadrivenangel » Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 1:30 PM UTC

Hopefully the schism this causes will result in more competition and improvement in the infrastructure as code space.

Re: The OpenTF Manifesto

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Post by jsiepkes » Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 1:32 PM UTC

Part of me hopes a fork comes out of this. I mean maybe features like this PR[1] for local state file encryption can then finally get merged.

[1] https://github.com/hashicorp/terraform/pull/28603

Re: The OpenTF Manifesto

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Post by miah_ » Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 1:36 PM UTC

I think this is awesome. I highly doubt Hashicorp will do the right thing, so I look forward to the new OpenTF foundation and their fork of Terraform.

Re: The OpenTF Manifesto

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Post by lijok » Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 1:38 PM UTC

I love it. The list of "pledged companies" is literally just a list of all the offenders that Hashicorp are trying to shake off.

Re: The OpenTF Manifesto

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Post by cube2222 » Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 1:38 PM UTC

Also, update from Spacelift, we believe that we are not in violation of the new license, you can find more details in our today's announcement[0].

We nevertheless support this initiative, though, as written in the article itself.

[0]: https://spacelift.io/blog/spacelift-latest-statement-on-hash...

Disclaimer: Work at Spacelift

Re: The OpenTF Manifesto

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Post by sausagefeet » Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 1:43 PM UTC

We, Terrateam, do not believe we violate the new license but we support Terraform being open due to how important it is to the ecosystem. Unlike Vault or Waypoint, Terraform is closer to a language compiler like Go or Java and benefits from a robust community that can build on top of a stable ecosystem. As such, we have announced our support of the OpenTF Manifest[0]

[0] https://terrateam.io/blog/opentf-pledge

Re: The OpenTF Manifesto

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Post by SebastianStadil » Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 1:43 PM UTC

datadrivenangel wrote: post #3

Hopefully the schism this causes will result in more competition and improvement in the infrastructure as code space.

Scalr cofounder here.

Hope so too, we're a fractured community splits resources and forces every organization to have a discussion on what to use. That affects all of us.

Re: The OpenTF Manifesto

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Post by SebastianStadil » Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 1:47 PM UTC

miah_ wrote: post #5

I think this is awesome. I highly doubt Hashicorp will do the right thing, so I look forward to the new OpenTF foundation and their fork of Terraform.

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