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Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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Shorter RIAA: "We stole these recordings with bullshit contracts decades ago, who are YOU to interfere with that????!!!!"

You can see their point, though: obviously Frank Sinatra wouldn't have even bothered recording in the 1950s if he knew that a quarter-century after his death his record company might not make every available cent in profit. /s

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post #3

The movie and music business sure spends a lot of money fighting piracy. This fruitless endeavor draws a lot of parallels with the war on drugs.

Their wealth managers must be tearing their hair out in frustration. If they instead invested all the money, they could easily weather the coming AI-induced collapse of their industry.

Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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post #5

What is the best way to let these greedy bastards know that we disagree with their conduct? Not buying records will only lead to them wrongfully claiming that they "lost revenue due to piracy".

Don't let that stop you. They'll always have complaints.

Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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post #2

Shorter RIAA: "We stole these recordings with bullshit contracts decades ago, who are YOU to interfere with that????!!!!" You can see their point, though: obviously Frank Sinatra wouldn't have even bothered recording in the 1950s if he knew that a quarter-century after his death his record company might not make every available cent in profit. /s

he might have done it anyway, if he knew what engineers were going to do with those recordings a half century later:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDOQ-y87YnE

Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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post #3

The movie and music business sure spends a lot of money fighting piracy. This fruitless endeavor draws a lot of parallels with the war on drugs.

> The movie and music business sure spends a lot of money fighting piracy.

If they spent it on providing a no-bullshit, reasonably priced platform that provides access to their whole catalog, then they would be making a lot more money than they would from lawsuits, and piracy would be virtually non-existent.

Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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What is the best way to let these greedy bastards know that we disagree with their conduct? Not buying records will only lead to them wrongfully claiming that they "lost revenue due to piracy".

How? Set up your own record label and implement your wish list of better terms. If you're reading hacker news, there's a good chance you can do most of the coding for free/stock/spec. Then you can be like totally cool about piracy and drink all of the kool aid about how piracy is just a different form of promotion.

My guess is that you'll come to the same conclusion as me: piracy destroys marketplaces. It forces the honest people to subsidize the free riders. If it were about something like food, I can understand a Jean-Val-Jean argument, but can anyone say with a straight face that they're stealing these fresh cuts just so their baby can listen to ccool music?

I think you'll also come to a grudging recognition of just how expensive it can be to market music. I've always thought the percentages demanded by record companies were outrageous, but when I tried to duplicate their services on my own I quickly learned where the money goes.

The IA is on a crash course to destroy the livlihood of artists, writers and other content creators. Don't ask me why. It doesn't make sense. They provide a nice service for society but now they're out on some crusade.

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