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Re: StableCode

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Either way, the race to zero has been further accelerated.

Stability AI, Apple, Meta, etc are clearly at the finish line putting pressure on cloud only AI models and cannot raise prices or compete with free.

Re: StableCode

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post #3

Either way, the race to zero has been further accelerated. Stability AI, Apple, Meta, etc are clearly at the finish line putting pressure on cloud only AI models and cannot raise prices or compete with free.

Open Source doesn't mean free. It costs a lot of money to run models and keep models up to date, and maybe a "good enough" model runs relatively cheaply, but there's always going to be a "state of the art" that people are willing to pay for.

Re: StableCode

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Is this a "product" that one could install and use or a model that one should expect an OEM to integrate into a product before programmers can use it? I'm asking because I don't see any links that would help me figure out how to try it out.

Re: StableCode

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Hard to believe it can work that well when it only has 3B parameters, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

I was impressed enough by replit's 2.7B model that I'm convinced it's doable. I have a 4090 and consider that the "max expected card for a consumer to own".

Also exllama doesn't support non-llama models and the creator doesn't seem interested in adding support for wizardcoder/etc. Because of this, using the alternatives are prohibitively slow to use a quantized 16B model on a 4090 (if the exllama author reads this _please_ add support for other model types!).

3B models with refact are pretty snappy with Refact, about as fast as github copilot. The other benefit is more context space, which will be a limiting factor for 16B models.

tl;dr - I think we need ~3B models if we want any chance of consumer hardware to reasonably run coding models akin to github copilot with decent context length. And I think it's doable.

Re: StableCode

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post #6

Is this a "product" that one could install and use or a model that one should expect an OEM to integrate into a product before programmers can use it? I'm asking because I don't see any links that would help me figure out how to try it out.

To be honest, you’d better buy GitHub co-pilot and enjoy the productivity boost at a cheap price. Trying to download/install/setup/use StableCode is worth it only if you want to learn all those steps as well. If what you care is the final result, just buy an existing service.

Re: StableCode

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post #3

Either way, the race to zero has been further accelerated. Stability AI, Apple, Meta, etc are clearly at the finish line putting pressure on cloud only AI models and cannot raise prices or compete with free.

> Stability AI, Apple, Meta, etc are clearly at the finish line

I'm very optimistic and expect them to catch up. I've used the open models a lot, to be clear they are starting to compare to GPT3.5Turbo right now, they can't compete with GPT4 at all. GPT4 is almost a year old from when it finished training I think?

I expect open source models to stay ~1.5 years behind. That said they will eventually be "good enough".

Keep in mind too though that using and scaling GPUs is not free. You have to run the models somewhere. Most businesses will still prefer a simple api to call instead of managing the infrastructure. On top of this many business (medium and smaller) will likely find models like GPT4 to be sufficient for their workload, and will appreciate the built in "rails" for their specific usecases.

tl;dr - open models don't even compare to GPT4 yet (I use them all daily), they aren't free to run, and a API option is still preferably to a massive if not most companies.

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