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#2I'm trying to think what would have pushed me and people I know to have more kids. I'm not convinced that more social services is the most important thing. We've been indoctrinated since before high school that getting pregnant is a negative outcome. A lot of society, especially middle class and above really down weights having kids as a priority until people are old enough to push for it themselves. So you have everyone being told career etc is more important, pregnancy is a bad thing, and then they realize often too late they want kids and either have fewer or find they can't.
I think the real solution is education about the upside of having kids and normalizing parenthood in one's 20's as a good life choice and as being successful.
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#3I'm trying to think what would have pushed me and people I know to have more kids. I'm not convinced that more social services is the most important thing. We've been indoctrinated since before high school that getting pregnant is a negative outcome. A lot of society, especially middle class and above really down weights having kids as a priority until people are old enough to push for it themselves. So you have ever…
Peer pressure encourages children. When many people around us have them, we feel like having them.
But in America, most millennials and gen Z are so stressed they cannot imagine a life with a dependent child.
If someone wants chimes in with a "avocado toast" comment, save your energy. We know about it. That $5 is not enough to pay the rent, let alone raising a child.
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#4I'm trying to think what would have pushed me and people I know to have more kids. I'm not convinced that more social services is the most important thing. We've been indoctrinated since before high school that getting pregnant is a negative outcome. A lot of society, especially middle class and above really down weights having kids as a priority until people are old enough to push for it themselves. So you have ever…
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#5I'm trying to think what would have pushed me and people I know to have more kids. I'm not convinced that more social services is the most important thing. We've been indoctrinated since before high school that getting pregnant is a negative outcome. A lot of society, especially middle class and above really down weights having kids as a priority until people are old enough to push for it themselves. So you have ever…
Seems like much of the pressure for having fewer / no kids comes from financial stresses.
It's very difficult to have a single income family with kids.
It's very difficult to raise kids with both parents working.
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#6I'm trying to think what would have pushed me and people I know to have more kids. I'm not convinced that more social services is the most important thing. We've been indoctrinated since before high school that getting pregnant is a negative outcome. A lot of society, especially middle class and above really down weights having kids as a priority until people are old enough to push for it themselves. So you have ever…
Seems like much of the pressure for having fewer / no kids comes from financial stresses. It's very difficult to have a single income family with kids. It's very difficult to raise kids with both parents working.
Poor people have more kids. Look at developing countries especially. Low fertility is a problem of the affluent. That's part of why I say I think it's cultural, it's seen as such a negative (including as a financial burden) instead of as a positive thing to be aspired to, at least that's what's pushed on younger people.
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#7why bother. Feed the Ponzi by importing millions from the third world.
how could this go wrong?
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#8why bother. Feed the Ponzi by importing millions from the third world. how could this go wrong?
Are you American and therefore part of that Ponzi scheme?
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#9I'm trying to think what would have pushed me and people I know to have more kids. I'm not convinced that more social services is the most important thing. We've been indoctrinated since before high school that getting pregnant is a negative outcome. A lot of society, especially middle class and above really down weights having kids as a priority until people are old enough to push for it themselves. So you have ever…
>We've been indoctrinated since before high school that getting pregnant is a negative outcome.
I recently had a similar thought. When I was a kid I remember a lot of emphasis being put on reducing and avoiding teen pregnancies, especially ad campaigns. This internalized the message that pregnancy is something to avoid.
But when I got older there was no ad campaign to try to undo that notion (if that's even possible). I wonder if there are now a bunch of adults going around with that same feeling internally.
I also remember the same thing about "healthy food" - if you eat these healthy things like milk, bread etc then you'll be fine. Now that I'm older I know that that was just bs. But no ad campaign for that either.