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Re: TV piracy groups formally adopt h264

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Finally, pirates are using ISO standards instead of gross hacks like DivX. RAR is still lame and using the tag "HDTV" to refer to SD downsamples of HD sources is still misleading, though.

Re: TV piracy groups formally adopt h264

#5
About time!

But requiring mp4 as container is a bad idea in my opinion. To playback an mp4 file you need to have it wholly (please correct me if I am wrong) so you cannot start watching before you downloaded it all. MKV would be so much better.

Please do not blindly reply with "But my XYZ device does not support MKV". Scene rules/standards have a lot of impact and might help making vendors support Matroska.

Re: TV piracy groups formally adopt h264

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post #4

Finally, pirates are using ISO standards instead of gross hacks like DivX. RAR is still lame and using the tag "HDTV" to refer to SD downsamples of HD sources is still misleading, though.

HDTV indicates source, not release quality. It's the same with bluray. The naming standards (and everything else for that matter) are highly regulated which is an impressive example of order by consensus since no one can give out orders.

RARs are an artefact of FTP transfers during which files would get corrupted, and not-so-fast connections of the past which made re-downloading the whole release somewhat inconvenient and wasteful.

Re: TV piracy groups formally adopt h264

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post #5

About time! But requiring mp4 as container is a bad idea in my opinion. To playback an mp4 file you need to have it wholly (please correct me if I am wrong) so you cannot start watching before you downloaded it all. MKV would be so much better. Please do not blindly reply with "But my XYZ device does not support MKV". Scene rules/standards have a lot of impact and might help making vendors support Matroska.

> To playback an mp4 file you need to have it wholly (please correct me if I am wrong)

You are. By default, many tools put the meta data of mp4 files at the end of the file which means you have to have the whole file before playing. However, such mp4 files can be "fixed" using tools like this:

https://github.com/danielgtaylor/qtfaststart

Re: TV piracy groups formally adopt h264

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post #5

About time! But requiring mp4 as container is a bad idea in my opinion. To playback an mp4 file you need to have it wholly (please correct me if I am wrong) so you cannot start watching before you downloaded it all. MKV would be so much better. Please do not blindly reply with "But my XYZ device does not support MKV". Scene rules/standards have a lot of impact and might help making vendors support Matroska.

> To playback an mp4 file you need to have it wholly

720p or better videos on youtube are all MP4 now. You just have to move some atoms around within the video file to prepare them for "streaming" playback. There's open source software to do this.

Then again, the ability to play an incomplete file is not really useful if you're fetching a movie via torrent, which is what I would assume most of these guys are using.

Re: TV piracy groups formally adopt h264

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post #5

About time! But requiring mp4 as container is a bad idea in my opinion. To playback an mp4 file you need to have it wholly (please correct me if I am wrong) so you cannot start watching before you downloaded it all. MKV would be so much better. Please do not blindly reply with "But my XYZ device does not support MKV". Scene rules/standards have a lot of impact and might help making vendors support Matroska.

If the MP4 is "fast start" the index is at the beginning so you can "stream" it.

I suspect scene standardization on MKV would probably encourage Apple and Sony to deliberately not support MKV (instead of not supporting it out of laziness, as they currently are).

Re: TV piracy groups formally adopt h264

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post #5

About time! But requiring mp4 as container is a bad idea in my opinion. To playback an mp4 file you need to have it wholly (please correct me if I am wrong) so you cannot start watching before you downloaded it all. MKV would be so much better. Please do not blindly reply with "But my XYZ device does not support MKV". Scene rules/standards have a lot of impact and might help making vendors support Matroska.

You don't need the whole file. That would just be silly and it's used for streaming all the time. Also even though I would prefer to see an open standard succeed, the mp4 container does have a lot more support while mkv doesn't have any advantages for this type of use.
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