GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by mfiguiere » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 7:03 PM UTC

GPT-4 API General Availability
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Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

#2

Post by minimaxir » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 7:12 PM UTC

With how good gpt-3.5-turbo-0613 is (particularly with system prompt engineering), there's no longer as much of a need to use the GPT-4 API especially given its massive 20x-30x price increase.

The mass adoption of the ChatGPT APIs compared to the old Completion APIs proves my initial blog post on the ChatGPT API correct: developers will immediately switch for a massive price reduction if quality is the same (or better!): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35110998

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

#3

Post by ftxbro » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 7:14 PM UTC

> "We envision a future where chat-based models can support any use case. Today we’re announcing a deprecation plan for older models of the Completions API"

nooooo they are deprecating the remnants of the base models

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by penjelly » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 7:14 PM UTC

not in the article: is plugin usage available to paying customers everywhere now? i still can't see the ui for it. im in canada and use pro. internet says it was out for everyone in may..

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by electroly » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 7:16 PM UTC

penjelly wrote: post #4

not in the article: is plugin usage available to paying customers everywhere now? i still can't see the ui for it. im in canada and use pro. internet says it was out for everyone in may..

Click the "..." button next to your name in the lower left corner, then Settings. It's under "Beta features."

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by SkyPuncher » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 7:18 PM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #2

With how good gpt-3.5-turbo-0613 is (particularly with system prompt engineering), there's no longer as much of a need to use the GPT-4 API especially given its massive 20x-30x price increase. The mass adoption of the ChatGPT APIs compared to the old Completion APIs proves my initial blog post on the ChatGPT API correct: developers will immediately switch for a massive price reduction if quality is the same (or bette…

Depending on your use case, there are major quality differences between GPT-3.5 and GPT-4.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by dreadlordbone » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 7:18 PM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #2

With how good gpt-3.5-turbo-0613 is (particularly with system prompt engineering), there's no longer as much of a need to use the GPT-4 API especially given its massive 20x-30x price increase. The mass adoption of the ChatGPT APIs compared to the old Completion APIs proves my initial blog post on the ChatGPT API correct: developers will immediately switch for a massive price reduction if quality is the same (or bette…

Code completion/assistance is an order of magnitude better in GPT4.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by rememberlenny » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 7:18 PM UTC

ftxbro wrote: post #3

> "We envision a future where chat-based models can support any use case. Today we’re announcing a deprecation plan for older models of the Completions API" nooooo they are deprecating the remnants of the base models

Its the older completion models, not the older chat completion models.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by superalignment » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 7:18 PM UTC

With this is the death of any uncensored usage of their models. Davinci 3 is the most powerful model where you can generate any content by instructing it via the completions API - chat GPT 3 models will not obey requests for censored or adult content.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by EnnioEvo » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 7:19 PM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #2

With how good gpt-3.5-turbo-0613 is (particularly with system prompt engineering), there's no longer as much of a need to use the GPT-4 API especially given its massive 20x-30x price increase. The mass adoption of the ChatGPT APIs compared to the old Completion APIs proves my initial blog post on the ChatGPT API correct: developers will immediately switch for a massive price reduction if quality is the same (or bette…

I have a startup of legal AI, the quality jump from GPT3.5 to GPT4 in this domain is straight mind-blowing, GPT3.5 in comparison is useless. But I see how in more conversational settings GPT3.5 can provide more appealing performance/price.