France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone
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Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone
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Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone
#3what tech does this even use? Do they mean using Pegasus or similar malware that the govt has to first get onto the suspect's devices, or is this via Google/Apple or the device manufacturers that makes 'remotely and secretly activating a microphone' even possible?
Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone
#4> They noted that a judge must approve any use of the provision
We tried the same in the US. Our intel agencies just lied to the judges, who mostly otherwise were hip to the con and acted as a rubber stamp.
Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone
#5what tech does this even use? Do they mean using Pegasus or similar malware that the govt has to first get onto the suspect's devices, or is this via Google/Apple or the device manufacturers that makes 'remotely and secretly activating a microphone' even possible?
> what tech does this even use? Do they mean using Pegasus or similar malware that the govt has to first get onto the suspect's devices, or is this via Google/Apple or the device manufacturers that makes 'remotely and secretly activating a microphone' even possible?
It would have to be after compromise, which would mean its likely only used on a very small number of cases due to the sensitivity and cost of the technology involved.
Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone
#6what tech does this even use? Do they mean using Pegasus or similar malware that the govt has to first get onto the suspect's devices, or is this via Google/Apple or the device manufacturers that makes 'remotely and secretly activating a microphone' even possible?
Looks like any app can be installed silently behind your back with GTalkService that is running on your Android phone
https://github.com/CellularPrivacy/Android-IMSI-Catcher-Dete...
https://jon.oberheide.org/blog/2010/06/28/a-peek-inside-the-...
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Google Play Services spyware discussion
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-insanely-better-bat...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-disable-service-guide...
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"...the cellular carrier can send blobs of FORTH code right to the radio. The radio firmware also seems to have an IP stack (with TCP) so it can do its own interesting things (both bad and good)..." https://boston.conman.org/2013/01/22.2
"...easily spotted loads and loads of bugs, scattered all over the place, each and every one of which could lead to exploits – crashing the device, and even allowing the attacker to remotely execute code. Remember: all over the air. One of the exploits he found required nothing more but a 73 byte message to get remote code execution. Over the air..."
"... It’s kind of a sobering thought that mobile communications, the cornerstone of the modern world in both developed and developing regions, pivots around software that is of dubious quality, poorly understood, entirely proprietary, and wholly insecure by design." https://www.osnews.com/story/27416/the-second-operating-syst... (archive: https://archive.is/FOR5V)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6722539
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6722732
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6722648
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SIM card reader chips have their own operating system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_card#Design
Rooting SIM cards https://archive.is/3ZohQ
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6722896
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6724215
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6723236
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Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone
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Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone
#8what tech does this even use? Do they mean using Pegasus or similar malware that the govt has to first get onto the suspect's devices, or is this via Google/Apple or the device manufacturers that makes 'remotely and secretly activating a microphone' even possible?
> The bill allows the geolocation of crime suspects, covering other devices like laptops, cars and connected devices, just as it could be remotely activated to record sound and images of people suspected of terror offences, as well as delinquency and organised crime.
Not just phones looks like.
Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone
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Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone
#10I'm sure this will stop the rioting.