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Re: Google Sidewiki

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This sounds great. Although, we basically have the same thing when people share links and people comment on them.

Classic Google though.

Gosh Google was the chosen one, how far they have fallen.

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I remember this, I always found the concept fascinating.

But looking back, looking at what the web has become, there was no chance this could have ever worked. At best, it being centralized, it would have become essentially a Google controled social-media-ish space where all the "inconvenient" comments would be removed anyway. Probably Google would even disable the comments on some pages, like disabling sidewiki comments on the pages of some big newspaper that demanded Google to do it because people were criticizing that giving media outlet. Let alone the sheer problem of dealing with spam, which, specially now with LLMs will get much harder to filter.

All these things could have been solved and dealt with it one way or the other, if we REALLY wanted. But ultimately, I think there was no interest on the people who maintain the internet, the people who create the tools that most use to access the internet: there is no reason why they would keep a tool that would allow people to voice their opinions.

On the contrary, what we have been seeing on the internet is precisely the oppose happening. They removed the dislikes, they removed comments in many videos. Hell, Netflix used to have an option where people could leave reviews on the movies they watched. The internet of 2020 is clean and "family-friendly" and "politically correct" and it fits the narrative and the current thing, and they knee before the big corporations and anything that could hurt their brand must be eliminated.

In the 2020s internet there is no space for a service like Google Sidewiki, and even if someone build this as an open standard, and even if the spam issue wasn't a problem... Google, Apple and Microsoft would never implement and built this feature on their browsers, and most people using the internet are too noobs to sideload an extension themselves that enables this feature to a point of it gaining enough of a userbase to matter and actually be useful.

In short, this whole product is a child of a more naive internet where people still believe that services could actually be better. Funnily enough, Gab launched a similar extension called "Dissenter" some years later and it got banned from Chrome and Mozilla extension stores.

Re: Google Sidewiki

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Didn't a version of this exist where you could collaboratively draw over any website using its contents as the background? (You can also guess the end result.)

Re: Google Sidewiki

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This sounds great. Although, we basically have the same thing when people share links and people comment on them. Classic Google though. Gosh Google was the chosen one, how far they have fallen.

This is an example of how Google valued shipping new products but put little emphasis on keeping those products active. Someone would get a project like this approved, push through a delivery, collect their bonus and/or promotion and then move on to a new product. My understanding is that these services shutdown because the team behind them has also moved on.

Re: Google Sidewiki

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I remember this, I always found the concept fascinating. But looking back, looking at what the web has become, there was no chance this could have ever worked. At best, it being centralized, it would have become essentially a Google controled social-media-ish space where all the "inconvenient" comments would be removed anyway. Probably Google would even disable the comments on some pages, like disabling sidewiki comm…

Just raising this since people might not know about it, but this is a Web standard now https://www.w3.org/annotation/. There are a couple of companies which have created browser plugins for this.

Re: Google Sidewiki

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Back when The Screen Savers was on ZDTV--and ZDTV existed for that matter--they used to host a chat room for the show that would appear at the bottom of the screen during live broadcasts, kindof like a ticker tape. You accessed the chat room by using a web browser that would turn every URL into a chat room. I don't remember if it was standalone browser or a plugin. I highly doubt it was a plugin but my memory fails me here.
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