Rocky Linux claims to have found 'path forward' from CentOS source purge
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Re: Rocky Linux claims to have found 'path forward' from CentOS source purge
#2Would it be possible to:
1. create a free dev account
2. get the sources
3. merge changes into rocky repo
4. have the account terminated by the Hat
5. goto 1?
Subversive, but mostly in compliance with GPL and Red Hat EULA... Ish. Kinda.
But I probably made an error here. Who can point it out?
Re: Rocky Linux claims to have found 'path forward' from CentOS source purge
#3Honestly, I’m tired of this. We were going to use Rockylinux as a base for the new version of our research cluster at a University used by researchers from all over the world. We are a tightly funded shop with money allocated as parts of research grants. We were running off of CentOS because a few tools that researchers use were built “for” RHEL by the commercial vendors. Since Redhat now considers users of CentOS “freeloaders” and “leeches”, we have to move on to a better distribution that doesn’t have greedy commercial interests and works with the open source community in the spirit of open source including redistribution freedom. To be fair, even though we were using CentOS at no cost, we have reported a fair share of bugs to RH that I hope to believe benefited the overall community.
We have settled on making the effort to move to Debian for the compute nodes.
One thing we could not break out of is FreeIPA :-( We are not brave enough to run FreeIPA on Debian or find a completely new alternative in Debian that wouldn’t break us while we are already changing so much. So, we are going to pay for RHEL for one server to run IDM.
I will tell the researchers that come to us needing RHEL compatibility to pay for RH license out of their research grants, or spend the time and work with me to make their stuff work on Debian(I can already see what choice they will make).
I hope the fine folks and management gurus at IBM/RH rejoice with their short term profit at the cost of long term loss of faith and ruin.
Re: Rocky Linux claims to have found 'path forward' from CentOS source purge
#4Would it be possible to: 1. create a free dev account 2. get the sources 3. merge changes into rocky repo 4. have the account terminated by the Hat 5. goto 1? Subversive, but mostly in compliance with GPL and Red Hat EULA... Ish. Kinda. But I probably made an error here. Who can point it out?
4. Have the user terminated by IBM lawyers.
Re: Rocky Linux claims to have found 'path forward' from CentOS source purge
#5Honestly, I’m tired of this. We were going to use Rockylinux as a base for the new version of our research cluster at a University used by researchers from all over the world. We are a tightly funded shop with money allocated as parts of research grants. We were running off of CentOS because a few tools that researchers use were built “for” RHEL by the commercial vendors. Since Redhat now considers users of CentOS “f…
> We have settled on making the effort to move to Debian for the compute nodes.
I’d donate to Rocky and stick with it, if it were my project.
Re: Rocky Linux claims to have found 'path forward' from CentOS source purge
#6Honestly, I’m tired of this. We were going to use Rockylinux as a base for the new version of our research cluster at a University used by researchers from all over the world. We are a tightly funded shop with money allocated as parts of research grants. We were running off of CentOS because a few tools that researchers use were built “for” RHEL by the commercial vendors. Since Redhat now considers users of CentOS “f…
> We have settled on making the effort to move to Debian for the compute nodes. I’d donate to Rocky and stick with it, if it were my project.
I would happily donate to Rocky if I thought it would really sustain it. But, honestly, they are too dependent on RH and finding ways to subvert their restrictions (and considering RH is pretty boldly clear that they dont want to give away the sources) makes it a whack-a-mole game that is not sustainable in my opinion. Been burnt with CentOS 8 once, and I'm not willing to go through it again. Atleast I know Debian wont go this way.
Re: Rocky Linux claims to have found 'path forward' from CentOS source purge
#7Honestly, I’m tired of this. We were going to use Rockylinux as a base for the new version of our research cluster at a University used by researchers from all over the world. We are a tightly funded shop with money allocated as parts of research grants. We were running off of CentOS because a few tools that researchers use were built “for” RHEL by the commercial vendors. Since Redhat now considers users of CentOS “f…
> We are not brave enough to run FreeIPA on Debian
are these redhat projects really so crappy that it is something to be scared about to attempt to simply run them on another linux distribution?
Re: Rocky Linux claims to have found 'path forward' from CentOS source purge
#8Honestly, I’m tired of this. We were going to use Rockylinux as a base for the new version of our research cluster at a University used by researchers from all over the world. We are a tightly funded shop with money allocated as parts of research grants. We were running off of CentOS because a few tools that researchers use were built “for” RHEL by the commercial vendors. Since Redhat now considers users of CentOS “f…
You can get up to 16 RHEL licenses for free.
You could always try talking to Red Hat Sales and dump a list of your submitted bugs at the same time. Say you need a really good deal or you're moving to Debian. The worst they can do is say no.
Re: Rocky Linux claims to have found 'path forward' from CentOS source purge
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We have settled on making the effort to move to Debian for the compute nodes. I’d donate to Rocky and stick with it, if it were my project.
I would happily donate to Rocky if I thought it would really sustain it. But, honestly, they are too dependent on RH and finding ways to subvert their restrictions (and considering RH is pretty boldly clear that they dont want to give away the sources) makes it a whack-a-mole game that is not sustainable in my opinion. Been burnt with CentOS 8 once, and I'm not willing to go through it again. Atleast I know Debian wo…
> But, honestly, they are too dependent on RH …
With enough support Rocky may grow by itself, without RH code. Like what is happening with OpenSearch and Elastic, and OPNsense and pfSense. And my gut feeling is that will happen.
Re: Rocky Linux claims to have found 'path forward' from CentOS source purge
#10Honestly, I’m tired of this. We were going to use Rockylinux as a base for the new version of our research cluster at a University used by researchers from all over the world. We are a tightly funded shop with money allocated as parts of research grants. We were running off of CentOS because a few tools that researchers use were built “for” RHEL by the commercial vendors. Since Redhat now considers users of CentOS “f…
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> So, we are going to pay for RHEL for one server to run IDM.
With a free developer account you can run up to 16 copies of RHEL, with up to 8 cores each, in production, without paying.