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Re: Board Changes at Signal

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Glad to hear Moxie's out. As a reminder, Signal didn't publish the source for their server-side from 20 April 2020 to 6 April 2021 [0] while they secretly added a cryptocurrency payment system to which Moxie was a paid technical advisor [1], which Moxie denied they were doing in January 2021 [2].

0: https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/04/06/it-looks-like-signa... (source was published shortly after the publication of that article)

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26715013 (comment from founder of MobileCoin)

2: https://www.theverge.com/22249391/signal-app-abuse-messaging...

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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Glad to hear Moxie's out. As a reminder, Signal didn't publish the source for their server-side from 20 April 2020 to 6 April 2021 [0] while they secretly added a cryptocurrency payment system to which Moxie was a paid technical advisor [1], which Moxie denied they were doing in January 2021 [2]. 0: https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/04/06/it-looks-like-signa... (source was published shortly after the publication of…

I'm not "glad to hear Moxie's out" -signal wouldn't exist without his work.

I agree the crypto was stupid. But, it was a product of the times, and I believe it grew (from scant evidence) out of concern about independent funding longterm for the project. It didn't work: it rebounded badly.

I use signal every day. I'm glad it exists, I'm glad he did the work. I like Meredith, and I think the new board needs to be given time to bed in and for us to see how things eventuate.

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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With moxie gone, will signal remove the cryptocoin shit?

If you build a truly private e2ee communications system, it is a little bit silly not to include a payments feature, as it's just an e2ee messaging use case (like stickers, or reactions, or stories, etc).

There are lots of useful apps you can build atop e2ee messaging: location sharing, payments, group chats, secret sharing, etc.

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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post #8

With moxie gone, will signal remove the cryptocoin shit?

If you build a truly private e2ee communications system, it is a little bit silly not to include a payments feature, as it's just an e2ee messaging use case (like stickers, or reactions, or stories, etc). There are lots of useful apps you can build atop e2ee messaging: location sharing, payments, group chats, secret sharing, etc.

It is silly to include it, I have other apps to do that without using cryptocurrency. It was a MobileCoin grift.

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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Glad to hear Moxie's out. As a reminder, Signal didn't publish the source for their server-side from 20 April 2020 to 6 April 2021 [0] while they secretly added a cryptocurrency payment system to which Moxie was a paid technical advisor [1], which Moxie denied they were doing in January 2021 [2]. 0: https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/04/06/it-looks-like-signa... (source was published shortly after the publication of…

I don't want Signal to have payments (or to axe SMS support). Those are both stupid things for Signal to do, which make it worse for me and worse in general. However, "what if [author's political opponents] used Signal?!" is a revolting hook to hang that hit piece on.
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