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Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA

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Re: Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA

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Google can't exactly fix the DMCA like the dev may want, but its fake appeal process is infuriating. You can appeal the takedown to Google but no human will ever validate that the DMCA notice even makes sense.

Filing a counter notice is your only option but it also hands over your personal details to whoever filed the DMCA takedown request for a potential lawsuit. This turns the DMCA mechanism into an excellent doxxing system for anyone publishing anything onto Google's platforms.

Perhaps even worse is the insinuation, or sometimes even lie, that appeals are verified by humans. They're either not passing by any humans or they're not being verified. If an actual human had read the DMCA takedown in the first place, this whole saga never would've happened.

Re: Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA

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Its more that Google's implementation of the DMCA is broken. They have automated take downs and have a completely broken appeal process. They certainly aren't the only company failing to deal with the DMCA correctly. There are clauses in the DMCA specifically targetted at false claims, if those were enforced we might start to see a change in the system but as is the DMCA is misused too often.

Re: Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA

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post #2

Google can't exactly fix the DMCA like the dev may want, but its fake appeal process is infuriating. You can appeal the takedown to Google but no human will ever validate that the DMCA notice even makes sense. Filing a counter notice is your only option but it also hands over your personal details to whoever filed the DMCA takedown request for a potential lawsuit. This turns the DMCA mechanism into an excellent doxxi…

Last time I was looking into it, the DMCA required that the subject was taken down _before_ you did the verification of the claim. So the DMCA basically is required to be an automatic process.

Re: Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA

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I had an app that was making about $10,000 USD a month. It was taken down by Google because apparently I copied some other developer's iOS app.

I asked them to tell me the name of the iOS app they believed I copied. They named the iOS version of my Android app.

They basically accused me of copying myself because the Android version was under my company's name while the iOS version was under my name.

Google unbanned the app, but sales dropped to $1000 a month.

After that ordeal I decided to build web apps only.

Re: Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA

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post #5

I had an app that was making about $10,000 USD a month. It was taken down by Google because apparently I copied some other developer's iOS app. I asked them to tell me the name of the iOS app they believed I copied. They named the iOS version of my Android app. They basically accused me of copying myself because the Android version was under my company's name while the iOS version was under my name. Google unbanned t…

> After that ordeal I decided to build web apps only.

Way to go ! Not everything can be a web app right now, but it's getting closer every year.

Re: Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA

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post #5

I had an app that was making about $10,000 USD a month. It was taken down by Google because apparently I copied some other developer's iOS app. I asked them to tell me the name of the iOS app they believed I copied. They named the iOS version of my Android app. They basically accused me of copying myself because the Android version was under my company's name while the iOS version was under my name. Google unbanned t…

So are the web apps having better returns?

Re: Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA

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post #2

Google can't exactly fix the DMCA like the dev may want, but its fake appeal process is infuriating. You can appeal the takedown to Google but no human will ever validate that the DMCA notice even makes sense. Filing a counter notice is your only option but it also hands over your personal details to whoever filed the DMCA takedown request for a potential lawsuit. This turns the DMCA mechanism into an excellent doxxi…

I do wonder, if you are in Europe, you would have a claim for violation of artists' "moral rights"?*. One of those legal rights is to be published under a pseudonym or anonymously.

*I don't think it's something really recognised in the USA.

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