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Re: Splash screens == sloth

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>When I turn my computer on, it should just be on. Ready to go. Kind of like—well, like my phone, for example. Which is, after all, my real computer.

what phone does he use? every phone that I know of takes at least two minutes to come up from a cold start, and has for the last ten years...

Re: Splash screens == sloth

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I don't think the guy will lose his job. Do you? He is addressing a very real issue. Adobe should read this.

Besides whether the issue he's addressing is real or not (i dont agree with him), this is not the way to address the company you work for and i would completely agree with Adobe if they do fire him for this.

Re: Splash screens == sloth

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I hate Adobe software with passion.

I used to love Macromedia Fireworks, so that I bought a copy of Fireworks after Adobe acquired Macromedia. I had to jump through some crazy hoops to prove that I did not steal the product, and that was nothing compared to what I had to do after buying a new computer – it turns out that I was supposed to unactivate the product on the old one and then activate on the new one. This is not what you do to your customers. I don’t even want to start on the issue of software quality or customer service (I once did the mistake of trying to report an i13n issue with my copy of Fireworks).

I swore there’s not going to be any software by Adobe on my computer anymore, and I even disabled Flash in my primary browser. I am lucky that I can do with the new wave of Mac graphics editors like Pixelmator. I was so happy paying for that product on the Mac App Store, getting a copy and doing nothing else that would require it to work. I was so happy that it starts immediately, that is has a decent UI. It’s not feature complete, it’s got its own bugs, but it’s a software and experience I am willing to pay for. Unlike Adobe. (Which is a company I once liked, being a typography geek and typesetting our school magazine in an old copy of PageMaker.)

Re: Splash screens == sloth

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What's the big deal? Showing a splash screen for less than 5 seconds (oh yeah, get an SSD) until everything initializes is better than opening a non-functioning UI ("the cloud" is not a solution - what are you going to do when your connection goes bad?). It would be nice to not have it, but for such a bloated program as Photoshop or After Effects, it's pretty much expected...

Re: Splash screens == sloth

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post #6

I hate Adobe software with passion. I used to love Macromedia Fireworks, so that I bought a copy of Fireworks after Adobe acquired Macromedia. I had to jump through some crazy hoops to prove that I did not steal the product, and that was nothing compared to what I had to do after buying a new computer – it turns out that I was supposed to unactivate the product on the old one and then activate on the new one. This is…

Of course, PageMaker wasn't created by Adobe — you're thinking of Aldus, who also published the excellent FreeHand.

Note the ongoing efforts to get Adobe to free FreeHand, including the recent antitrust lawsuit: http://freefreehand.wordpress.com/

Adobe is just another company where good software goes to die.

Re: Splash screens == sloth

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post #4

>When I turn my computer on, it should just be on. Ready to go. Kind of like—well, like my phone, for example. Which is, after all, my real computer. what phone does he use? every phone that I know of takes at least two minutes to come up from a cold start, and has for the last ten years...

And there are a variety of programs on my phone that take a few seconds to start. Angry Birds has a splash screen, for instance.

Re: Splash screens == sloth

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My computer is pretty responsive, at least as much as my smartphone is and I'm not running anything special (No SSD, 4GB of RAM and an older model of quad core).

Ok, I wait maybe 2-3 minutes for the computer to start (not even that if I just put it to sleep instead of turning it off). I can work for ~8-10 hours so those minutes aren't a big deal.

There are a few programs that are particularly slow to start (eclipse, steam, openoffice) but that's mostly just because there is a lot of code to load and I'm sure a comparable application for a smartphone would be just as slow.

I do run Linux most of the time though so there is probably a bias there towards smaller non-monolithic programs there and not having registry bloat helps.

However I still remember the days of Windows 98 and how horribly slow everything was back then on anything apart from a freshly installed machine and having to wait a full minute for Office 97 to start, we've come a long way since those days. I can't see it taking long before every PC comes with an SSD drive (which is probably part of the reason smartphones seem responsive as well as having a well warmed cache).

As for doing something like running a cloud instance of the program and then somehow syncing back to the desktop app seemlessly, that seems like it would add such an insane level of extra complexity and problems which is exactly what he seems to be against.

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