Ban on Tenure for New Faculty Hires Passes Texas Senate
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Re: Ban on Tenure for New Faculty Hires Passes Texas Senate
#2Not the law yet, but as Scott Aaronson (I'm positive along with others) has pointed out, this would make their universities vastly less attractive to various incoming faculty.
Whether that would be as impactful in STEM as in the humanities or human-interest areas like law remains to be seen.
Re: Ban on Tenure for New Faculty Hires Passes Texas Senate
#3This is the republicans punishing groups of people they don't like.
Re: Ban on Tenure for New Faculty Hires Passes Texas Senate
#4So the Texas Senate just passed a bill that makes it more likely that Texas faculty hires will be from a smaller and no doubt lower quality pool of candidates?
Why take a job without the possibility of tenure vs anywhere else in the US that has the option available to you?
Re: Ban on Tenure for New Faculty Hires Passes Texas Senate
#5Not the law yet, but as Scott Aaronson (I'm positive along with others) has pointed out, this would make their universities vastly less attractive to various incoming faculty. Whether that would be as impactful in STEM as in the humanities or human-interest areas like law remains to be seen.
> this would make their universities vastly less attractive to various incoming faculty
...but given the flood state of the academic labor market, still rather attractive.
Re: Ban on Tenure for New Faculty Hires Passes Texas Senate
#6Honestly, it may not be a bad thing. Tenure was meant to protect the academic freedom, and pursuit of the long-term scientific research. Today, most academics chase money, grants, trends, citations and status.
It’s a job like any other, and doesn’t need protection, at cost to those outside the ivory tower (unless perhaps for a very small subset).
Re: Ban on Tenure for New Faculty Hires Passes Texas Senate
#7how many tenure track positions are hiring these days? I have the impression that they are pretty rare anyway.
Re: Ban on Tenure for New Faculty Hires Passes Texas Senate
#8So the Texas Senate just passed a bill that makes it more likely that Texas faculty hires will be from a smaller and no doubt lower quality pool of candidates? Why take a job without the possibility of tenure vs anywhere else in the US that has the option available to you?
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Re: Ban on Tenure for New Faculty Hires Passes Texas Senate
#9I’m skeptical that tenure is good for students, I knew so many teachers that just didn’t much care for their work and probably would have been fired if not for tenure. I understand the arguments in favor of tenure, particularly when it comes to recruitment, but given the bloated pipeline into academia, I’m not sure they hold.
Re: Ban on Tenure for New Faculty Hires Passes Texas Senate
#10how many tenure track positions are hiring these days? I have the impression that they are pretty rare anyway.
Substantially more than "zero".