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Proton announces Proton Pass, a password manager

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Re: Proton announces Proton Pass, a password manager

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While I like players such as Proton entering the Password manager space, I hope they don't lose focus with the multitudes of products.

What I liked about Proton was the simplicity on just one product and executing it well, but lately they've kept on adding new products some in their wheelhouse and aligns well (VPN for example), but some a stretch (Drive/Calendar).

Re: Proton announces Proton Pass, a password manager

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This will probably conflict with the linux pass utility in google results, though not much to do there since it's such a generic name.

Both proton and pass are things I use every day on Linux, naming things is just hard and it only gets harder as more projects come along.

Re: Proton announces Proton Pass, a password manager

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Every time I read about Proton I remember about that time CIA/BND created a fake crypto company in Switzerland because the country was perceived as neutral and used it to sell backdoored crypto equipment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG

As a rule, never depend on only one company for all your opsec. Use different companies for you mail/VPN/password manager/antivirus/...

Re: Proton announces Proton Pass, a password manager

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With how Proton handled the French climate activist debacle, who is going to trust this over pretty much any alternative if they're concerned about privacy or security?

Any tl/dr available?

The general gist is that any legal, above board company providing privacy-oriented services is subject to the laws of where they operate, ergo, if privacy and security is something that matters to you, don't trust a third-party because they will want to stay in business.

They received a court order, they cooperated with the police, for better or worse (I have zero opinion on it; frankly don't care), and handed over a customer's IP, which led to the arrest of the activist.

The problems that Proton is trying to solve, e.g., email, are better taken care of by other tools depending on a user's threat model. Likewise, if someone actually needs privacy and security because their life is on the line in an oppressive regime, utilizing a service like Proton's is a shit idea.

Re: Proton announces Proton Pass, a password manager

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post #2

While I like players such as Proton entering the Password manager space, I hope they don't lose focus with the multitudes of products. What I liked about Proton was the simplicity on just one product and executing it well, but lately they've kept on adding new products some in their wheelhouse and aligns well (VPN for example), but some a stretch (Drive/Calendar).

I feel like drive and calendar go with e-mail fairly naturally. The play seems to be giving people willing to pay for a google alternative everything they'd want to replace. They can't give them everything but, encrypted storage feels like a fairly simple thing to provide and calendars are a well trod problem space.

Overall though, I agree with you. Proton seems like a solid company with good offerings and it would be a shame if they lost quality in their core offerings for the sake of adding features.

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