The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England
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Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England
#2No doubt there's a real underlying problem here. The abuse of comparison doesn't help anything though. I'd guess (but it's a guess) that average american life expectancy is going down because of some demographics who have it really bad (opioid users eg). That's an acute problem that has no meaning when averaged with everything else. Quoting averages makes it seem like there's some sort of broad malaise as opposed to specific issues for specific groups.
Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England
#3Christ Jesus, the USA are on average as good as Merthyr Tydfil, the epicenter of Welsh coal mining, which Maggie Thatcher destroyed. It's bad, but no one anticipated it to be that bad.
Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England
#4"1 in 25 Americans being born will not make it to their 40th birthday."
Wow. Actually impressed with the analysis backing this up. If you read the entire thread, he actually covers nearly every correlating factor I could think of.
And it's pretty clearly drugs, guns, suicide, and cars. (The cardio health one doesn't seem as strong).
The one that is crazy to me is the uptick in driving fatalities. Cars are an order of magnitude safer than they used to be and we were trending towards 0. An entire generation has to be that much more reckless than before to make that kind of a dent.
Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England
#5Christ Jesus, the USA are on average as good as Merthyr Tydfil, the epicenter of Welsh coal mining, which Maggie Thatcher destroyed. It's bad, but no one anticipated it to be that bad.
I'm not surprised at all. If you compare individual US states to other countries, some parts of the US south have worse healthcare systems than third-world nations. The US is by far the worst health country in the OECD.
Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England
#6"1 in 25 Americans being born will not make it to their 40th birthday." Wow. Actually impressed with the analysis backing this up. If you read the entire thread, he actually covers nearly every correlating factor I could think of. And it's pretty clearly drugs, guns, suicide, and cars. (The cardio health one doesn't seem as strong). The one that is crazy to me is the uptick in driving fatalities. Cars are an order of…
It’s not necessarily recklessness.
Cars in the US have gotten much larger and heavier in recent years.
A Ford F150 might be safe to drive, but it’s not safer for pedestrians and other road users than the smaller cars we used to have.
Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England
#7"1 in 25 Americans being born will not make it to their 40th birthday." Wow. Actually impressed with the analysis backing this up. If you read the entire thread, he actually covers nearly every correlating factor I could think of. And it's pretty clearly drugs, guns, suicide, and cars. (The cardio health one doesn't seem as strong). The one that is crazy to me is the uptick in driving fatalities. Cars are an order of…
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Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England
#8I saw this other life-expectancy-related story a a while ago, and there are probably COVID-related reasons, but I’m surprised this hasn’t got more publicity:
> China's life expectancy is now higher than that of the US [1].
Here’s a slightly deeper dive into this story [2].
[1] https://qz.com/china-life-expectancy-exceeds-us-1849483265
[2] https://www.newsweek.com/china-us-life-expectancy-birth-2021...
Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England
#9No doubt there's a real underlying problem here. The abuse of comparison doesn't help anything though. I'd guess (but it's a guess) that average american life expectancy is going down because of some demographics who have it really bad (opioid users eg). That's an acute problem that has no meaning when averaged with everything else. Quoting averages makes it seem like there's some sort of broad malaise as opposed to…
I think the Oxycontin/Purdue scam is pretty typical of how corruptions that were once targeted by the government to intentionally victimize minorities in ways not large enough to wash away other gains in overall life expectancy have spread to a difficulty in limiting industries victimizing larger more diverse groups in ways that undermine the stats the US was protecting.
Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England
#10Christ Jesus, the USA are on average as good as Merthyr Tydfil, the epicenter of Welsh coal mining, which Maggie Thatcher destroyed. It's bad, but no one anticipated it to be that bad.
I'm not surprised at all. If you compare individual US states to other countries, some parts of the US south have worse healthcare systems than third-world nations. The US is by far the worst health country in the OECD.
At the same time US government spends the most in the world on socialized healthcare.