IPCC climate crisis report delivers ‘final warning on 1.5C’
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IPCC climate crisis report delivers ‘final warning on 1.5C’
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#2Is it just my memory playing tricks, or did we not use to talk about crossing the 1C threshold? I guess now that that’s not a possibility anymore, we’re moving to the next, hoping to get some sort of action out of politicians.
I strongly suspect we’re going to cross the 2C threshold in our lifetimes.
The willpower to change things isn’t there, and the effects are too far removed from our decisions. Even the floods and droughts are easy to ignore, telling yourself “it’s not happening here, just some random far away place”.
But I also think that we’ll slowly start reducing our emissions anyway, as electric cars and green energy keep spreading. So we will eventually reach an equilibrium. I just don’t think that that’ll be before the 2C threshold.
Re: IPCC climate crisis report delivers ‘final warning on 1.5C’
#3Is it just my memory playing tricks, or did we not use to talk about crossing the 1C threshold? I guess now that that’s not a possibility anymore, we’re moving to the next, hoping to get some sort of action out of politicians. I strongly suspect we’re going to cross the 2C threshold in our lifetimes. The willpower to change things isn’t there, and the effects are too far removed from our decisions. Even the floods an…
How about the hot-fresh super charged activist group called (edit) "Climate 350" .. stop those carbon density numbers from climbing before it is TOO LATE
less than two years after it was formed the PPM went past 360, then not long after went past 400 PPM iir.. how can those people feel emotionally after that?
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#5This whole "act now or it will be too late", I think actually damages our chances of dealing with this.
The reason is that there is a good chance we will blow past 1.5, and this will be brought up as evidence that they are just "crying wolf".
My guess is that the "final warning" phrasing is more news media and not actual scientists. If so, the news media is doing a great disservice to humanity.
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#6It always makes me sad how scientists have to put on a brave face and try to tell us there's still time. Sadly, they know the most likely outcome puts us blowing past 3C by the end of the century, and 'carbon capture' isn't going to save us.
If you guys are planning to see the natural world in retirement, don't wait. Better to see it as it is now than what it will become.
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#7Final report, not final warning - that's the guardian's headline spin, the 'warning' comes from a "climate expert at Greenpeace International" in the article.
"The Synthesis Report will be the last of the AR6 products and is scheduled to be released in March 2023 to inform the 2023 Global Stocktake under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change."
Re: IPCC climate crisis report delivers ‘final warning on 1.5C’
#8For anyone interested in what 1.5C represents, I can't recommend enough the Climate Fresk [1] exercise.
It's not just the droughts and floods, the heatwaves, the changes in birds, insects, crop yields, … Include permafrost melting and releasing greenhouse gasses, civil unrest in populated areas that won't be livable anymore, unstable food production, and quite a few other causes and consequences.
It's a feedback loop of many moving parts. Thinking that "we will reach an equilibrium eventually" is probably a naïve take. The next natural equilibrium probably includes a decimated world population.
Positive action is necessary now. If you don't know what action to do, go to [1] and start there.
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I cannot comprehend how someone could look at the evidence and conclude that growth will continue uninterrupted as the natural world is destroyed around us.
If you really don't believe climate change will have any impact, you should take a look at the actions of insurance companies. Their survival depends on them properly pricing in climate risk, and there's a reason why they've largely abandoned florida.
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"Economic growth" is probably a bad indicator to follow.
I would rather follow "number of excess death directly or indirectly linked to climate change." I don't know if that can be calculated somewhere.