The Great Illyrian Revolt
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The Great Illyrian Revolt
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#2Interesting, despite living in Croatia I had never heard of this rebellion, neither in school or in my spare time history reading.
On the other hand, the rugged eastern Adriatic coast and interior, with its many isolated islands and hills, was apparently a pirate sanctuary since records began so not too surprising.
Still, I would've thought that by Caesar's and Octavian's time the immediate vicinity of Italy would've been firmly under Roman control.
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#3Anyone know why this has been on the front page for so long without any comments?
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#4Anyone know why this has been on the front page for so long without any comments?
Not sure about the lack of comments, but now I know where Star Trek got this faction name from.
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#5I had never heard of this war, but apparently it was considered by Romans to be the most significant foreign conflict since the Punic Wars with Hannibal. I assume that the Civil Wars are not included.
The Roman historian Suetonius described the uprising as the most difficult conflict faced by Rome since the Punic Wars two centuries earlier.
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#6> Bato promised to surrender if he and his followers would be pardoned. Tiberius agreed and then asked him why his people had rebelled. According to Cassius Dio, he replied: "You Romans are to blame for this; for you send as guardians of your flocks, not dogs or shepherds, but wolves."[37]
This seems to be a common cause of Roman rebellions. For example, Boudica rebelled after the Roman governor tried to seize her kingdom and then raped her daughters. The Jewish rebellion started after a Roman governor seized money from the Temple.
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#7Welcome to the Balkans, where this kind of ancient stuff is used as arguments in historical disputes for modern nation building and pride. Whether your genes have traces from the Illyrian, Thracian, Dalmatian, Greek, Slavic or proto-Bulgarian tribes, is a major force in international relations on that peninsula.
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#8Welcome to the Balkans, where this kind of ancient stuff is used as arguments in historical disputes for modern nation building and pride. Whether your genes have traces from the Illyrian, Thracian, Dalmatian, Greek, Slavic or proto-Bulgarian tribes, is a major force in international relations on that peninsula.
you mean where entire nations are created after the balkanisation(ha ha) of yugoslavia by using false history to base nationalism on and create a national identity ?
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#9> Bato promised to surrender if he and his followers would be pardoned. Tiberius agreed and then asked him why his people had rebelled. According to Cassius Dio, he replied: "You Romans are to blame for this; for you send as guardians of your flocks, not dogs or shepherds, but wolves."[37] This seems to be a common cause of Roman rebellions. For example, Boudica rebelled after the Roman governor tried to seize her ki…
You're a bright young thing from an aristocratic Roman family, burning with entitlement and ambition. Your cursus honorum means you have to accumulate experience before you can run as senator or other high office of state, so you accept a post as governor of some far province.
You get there, and it's all very underwhelming. The place is even filthier than Rome, sometimes little more than a village built with sticks. Food and weather are atrocious. The locals can't understand you, and you can't understand them without going through some local translator you may or may not trust. There is nothing interesting to do except adjudicating the occasional squabble between neighbouring tribes. You are too far from the action in Rome to keep up with the political winds, and you know people are forgetting you with every passing day. Your troops are bored and restless, corruption and moral decay are everywhere in your ranks. You're increasingly paranoid and fearful for your life - if one can be assassinated in Rome, where it's full of people at all times and eventual scrutiny is inevitable, think of what could happen here in the middle of nowhere, where nobody is watching...
So one day you snap out of it. You will be glorious, peasants be damned. You will be a Caesar, you will conquer and embiggen Rome's glory. What are these idiots going to do anyway, with their little wooden sticks? Let's remind them how we got here in the first place! And off you go into unprovoked conflict.
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#10I had never heard of this war, but apparently it was considered by Romans to be the most significant foreign conflict since the Punic Wars with Hannibal. I assume that the Civil Wars are not included. The Roman historian Suetonius described the uprising as the most difficult conflict faced by Rome since the Punic Wars two centuries earlier.
It's often overshadowed by events that followed shortly after:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Teutoburg_Forest