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How many Russians have been killed in Ukraine?

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Re: How many Russians have been killed in Ukraine?

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What this article is glibly ignoring is that the number of Ukrainian deaths are far higher. The US is fighting a proxy war with Russia to the last Ukrainian, in which everybody loses.

I'm confused... In what way would a country fighting for its freedom from a conquering neighbor intent on annexing it be a situation in which everybody loses?

If they win, they keep their country and sovereignty. If they lose, the conquering neighbor takes their land and kills their leaders.

Re: How many Russians have been killed in Ukraine?

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What this article is glibly ignoring is that the number of Ukrainian deaths are far higher. The US is fighting a proxy war with Russia to the last Ukrainian, in which everybody loses.

i think that is wrong, in general defenders lose less men (usually 1:3 ratio). In Bakhmut it is though that the russian losses were much higher, around 1:5.

so your claim is nonsense with nothing to support it

Re: How many Russians have been killed in Ukraine?

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What this article is glibly ignoring is that the number of Ukrainian deaths are far higher. The US is fighting a proxy war with Russia to the last Ukrainian, in which everybody loses.

No, Ukraine is fighting for its own survival to the last Ukrainian. Regardless of whatever the US has out of it, they want to fight. Very understandable if you ever visited Russia - the actual loss would be having a Russian overlord, many would rather die (and many would be killed by Russians either way).

Re: How many Russians have been killed in Ukraine?

#7

What this article is glibly ignoring is that the number of Ukrainian deaths are far higher. The US is fighting a proxy war with Russia to the last Ukrainian, in which everybody loses.

I'm confused... In what way would a country fighting for its freedom from a conquering neighbor intent on annexing it be a situation in which everybody loses? If they win, they keep their country and sovereignty. If they lose, the conquering neighbor takes their land and kills their leaders.

now i am confused. Would you have cheered for saddam hussain when the world (except US) knew there were no WMDs and this was a straight up coup and a massacre and annihilation with what repercussions? If you want to hold russia to the lofty standards of human rights and sovereignty, why not look around and also start blaming others for doing so? Again, i am not saying dont blame russia because US was never blamed or faced any consequences, on the contrary i am asking to hold US and allies in the same light as you are holding russia.

saudi-yemen? why isn't saudi being sanctioned and bombed for committing more of these "human rights" crimes? oh wait, they are allies.

Re: How many Russians have been killed in Ukraine?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm confused... In what way would a country fighting for its freedom from a conquering neighbor intent on annexing it be a situation in which everybody loses? If they win, they keep their country and sovereignty. If they lose, the conquering neighbor takes their land and kills their leaders.

now i am confused. Would you have cheered for saddam hussain when the world (except US) knew there were no WMDs and this was a straight up coup and a massacre and annihilation with what repercussions? If you want to hold russia to the lofty standards of human rights and sovereignty, why not look around and also start blaming others for doing so? Again, i am not saying dont blame russia because US was never blamed or…

This discussion derailment technique is called "whataboutism". It's a modified form of the "tu quoque" logical fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

Re: How many Russians have been killed in Ukraine?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm confused... In what way would a country fighting for its freedom from a conquering neighbor intent on annexing it be a situation in which everybody loses? If they win, they keep their country and sovereignty. If they lose, the conquering neighbor takes their land and kills their leaders.

now i am confused. Would you have cheered for saddam hussain when the world (except US) knew there were no WMDs and this was a straight up coup and a massacre and annihilation with what repercussions? If you want to hold russia to the lofty standards of human rights and sovereignty, why not look around and also start blaming others for doing so? Again, i am not saying dont blame russia because US was never blamed or…

Now I am confused. Why do you bring up the US in a discussion about Ukraine and Russia? What did Ukraine do to deserve their fate as unwilling Russian vassal state?

Re: How many Russians have been killed in Ukraine?

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What this article is glibly ignoring is that the number of Ukrainian deaths are far higher. The US is fighting a proxy war with Russia to the last Ukrainian, in which everybody loses.

i think that is wrong, in general defenders lose less men (usually 1:3 ratio). In Bakhmut it is though that the russian losses were much higher, around 1:5. so your claim is nonsense with nothing to support it

The defenders are being heavily shelled by Russian artillery. Your claim that 5 times as many Russians are dying is nonsense. War is not a video game. People are dying and the only response appears to be to escalate.
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