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Waiting for Brando: A disastrous 1961 film production of the Iliad

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Re: Waiting for Brando: A disastrous 1961 film production of the Iliad

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Women often report that they suffer from imposter syndrome. I wonder if there’s a name for the opposite phenomenon so amply on display in this story, with this young male college dropout hustling catastrophically, all because he’s afraid a famous painter will steal his maybe-girlfriend.

Re: Waiting for Brando: A disastrous 1961 film production of the Iliad

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> I realized that though we had come to Cornell from Brooklyn, and from fairly similar Jewish middle-class backgrounds

> Her father, who owned a travel agency, among many other companies, provided us with first-class tickets to Athens on a KLM “sleeper” flight.

It's true what they say, everybody wants to think of themselves as middle-class

Re: Waiting for Brando: A disastrous 1961 film production of the Iliad

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Women often report that they suffer from imposter syndrome. I wonder if there’s a name for the opposite phenomenon so amply on display in this story, with this young male college dropout hustling catastrophically, all because he’s afraid a famous painter will steal his maybe-girlfriend.

Rallying the forces of the Greek army with the aim of pursuing a woman someone else is "taking" is just... perfect, considering what he was trying to adapt.

Hell, you could make a pretty good movie out of this story, actually.

Re: Waiting for Brando: A disastrous 1961 film production of the Iliad

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TLDR: He was obsessed with a beautiful young woman who was being pursued by probably multiple other men way above his station. She seems to have barely given him the time of day.

So he comes up with this plan to do a movie -- having never done such before -- and have her star in it as his idea for how to try to pursue her. At no point does this piece suggest they were ever an item.

This is an excerpt from a book and it sounds like he was borderline a stalker. Ugh.

Re: Waiting for Brando: A disastrous 1961 film production of the Iliad

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post #5

> I realized that though we had come to Cornell from Brooklyn, and from fairly similar Jewish middle-class backgrounds > Her father, who owned a travel agency, among many other companies, provided us with first-class tickets to Athens on a KLM “sleeper” flight. It's true what they say, everybody wants to think of themselves as middle-class

Yeah, they rarely go around saying, "I'm the 1%".

Re: Waiting for Brando: A disastrous 1961 film production of the Iliad

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TLDR: He was obsessed with a beautiful young woman who was being pursued by probably multiple other men way above his station. She seems to have barely given him the time of day. So he comes up with this plan to do a movie -- having never done such before -- and have her star in it as his idea for how to try to pursue her. At no point does this piece suggest they were ever an item. This is an excerpt from a book and…

That doesn't sound even close to accurate, having read the article. They collaborated, she designed costumes, they flew to Greece together, her family invited him to stay at their property. Still doesn't suggest they were an item, but it's far from doing it all without her consent. Plus, he was still intent on making the movie after she moved on.

Re: Waiting for Brando: A disastrous 1961 film production of the Iliad

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TLDR: He was obsessed with a beautiful young woman who was being pursued by probably multiple other men way above his station. She seems to have barely given him the time of day. So he comes up with this plan to do a movie -- having never done such before -- and have her star in it as his idea for how to try to pursue her. At no point does this piece suggest they were ever an item. This is an excerpt from a book and…

That doesn't sound even close to accurate, having read the article. They collaborated, she designed costumes, they flew to Greece together, her family invited him to stay at their property. Still doesn't suggest they were an item, but it's far from doing it all without her consent. Plus, he was still intent on making the movie after she moved on.

The first sentence states he fell "head over heels" in love with her even though nowhere in the piece does he indicate they ever dated or flirted or so much as kissed.

The rest of the first paragraph describe an interaction that sounds to me like she was probably trying to deflect his interest. He goes on to say he persisted with a tenacity he did not know he was capable of.

If that doesn't sound borderline stalkerish to you, I don't know what to say. We likely won't see eye-to-eye on the topic.

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