What is a mathematical structure of conscious experience?
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#3So... is this another one of those "Toward a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity by AD Sokal" - type efforts?
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#4So... is this another one of those "Toward a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity by AD Sokal" - type efforts?
The title would certainly suggest so
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#5>In defining what it means for a mathematical structure to be of conscious experience, our
proposal does not answer the question of what this mathematical structure is.
Nothing is answered in this article. We simply don't know.
This article is up here because nobody is sure whether or not chatGPT is in any way representative of an aspect of our conscious experience.
Is chatGPT a mathematical model of consciousness?
We know it doesn't represent the whole experience because... it has huge flaws... but we aren't sure whether it represents an aspect of what we are.
Disagree or agree, we have something in our hands and it could be it... but at this point we don't know.
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#6So... is this another one of those "Toward a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity by AD Sokal" - type efforts?
There's at least a coherent interpretation for this one.
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#7TLDR; It's a tuple.
Re: What is a mathematical structure of conscious experience?
#8>In defining what it means for a mathematical structure to be of conscious experience, our proposal does not answer the question of what this mathematical structure is. Nothing is answered in this article. We simply don't know. This article is up here because nobody is sure whether or not chatGPT is in any way representative of an aspect of our conscious experience. Is chatGPT a mathematical model of consciousness? W…
> We know it doesn't represent the whole experience because... it has huge flaws
To be clear, we can't yet conclude that these huge flaws are due to its structure rather than the extra sensory data that we have and it doesn't. Doesn't really change your overall point, just wanted to clarify what we can and cannot conclude from the evidence, because people are far too quick to jump to conclusions after seeing the flaws.
Re: What is a mathematical structure of conscious experience?
#9>In defining what it means for a mathematical structure to be of conscious experience, our proposal does not answer the question of what this mathematical structure is. Nothing is answered in this article. We simply don't know. This article is up here because nobody is sure whether or not chatGPT is in any way representative of an aspect of our conscious experience. Is chatGPT a mathematical model of consciousness? W…
> We know it doesn't represent the whole experience because... it has huge flaws To be clear, we can't yet conclude that these huge flaws are due to its structure rather than the extra sensory data that we have and it doesn't. Doesn't really change your overall point, just wanted to clarify what we can and cannot conclude from the evidence, because people are far too quick to jump to conclusions after seeing the flaw…
Completely agreed. There are flaws. But there are times where the output appears that it cannot anything else other then complete understanding of what was given to it as input.
Re: What is a mathematical structure of conscious experience?
#10I'm surprised that in all this hype Gödel Escher Bach hasn't seen a proportional comeback. Hofstadter outlines with some formality a very plausible kind of structure of consciousness, namely the "strange loop": a system of symbols or rule-patterns that contains a distinct but isomorphic (or approaching) description of itself.