The Generative AI Race Has a Dirty Secret
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#2Energy source > Energy consumption.
Energy consumption is not a bogeyman and we'll need to consume vastly more energy if we want to make people richer, healthier and happier.
We need to pivot to cleaner sources, so the focus should be on that.
Would be great if the journos could stop demonizing the wrong thing.
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#3Has someone already made a cryptocurrency that requires that miners train an AI to demonstrate proof of work?
Re: The Generative AI Race Has a Dirty Secret
#4Energy source > Energy consumption. Energy consumption is not a bogeyman and we'll need to consume vastly more energy if we want to make people richer, healthier and happier. We need to pivot to cleaner sources, so the focus should be on that. Would be great if the journos could stop demonizing the wrong thing.
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#6Has someone already made a cryptocurrency that requires that miners train an AI to demonstrate proof of work?
sigh Web4 hype train, here we come....
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#8Energy source > Energy consumption. Energy consumption is not a bogeyman and we'll need to consume vastly more energy if we want to make people richer, healthier and happier. We need to pivot to cleaner sources, so the focus should be on that. Would be great if the journos could stop demonizing the wrong thing.
>> we'll need to consume vastly more energy if we want to make people richer, healthier and happier
I have frequently heard this argument made - often as here axiomatically.
No argument that changing energy sources is crucial. But I would not dismiss a plan to also reduce overall energy consumption while maintaining or improving quality of life indicators.
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#9Energy source > Energy consumption. Energy consumption is not a bogeyman and we'll need to consume vastly more energy if we want to make people richer, healthier and happier. We need to pivot to cleaner sources, so the focus should be on that. Would be great if the journos could stop demonizing the wrong thing.
That’s all well and good to say, but we currently have no system to do that.
What we ought to have is a carbon tax. Then if some activity such as bitcoin or ai or driving or flying uses carbon, you pay extra. Whereas if you manage to fuel your activities with nuclear/wind/solar you don’t.
There are loads of complexities to this but simply saying “consumption is necessary for riches” while ignoring that we have not managed to lower our carbon usage is not quite hitting the mark.
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#10I kinda hate these articles about the carbon cost of compute- it's utterly short sighted, gpt3 is infrastructure that creates huge efficiencies - the cost is a bargain. Not to mention this is like early days and we're driving down the costs everyday.