Live data from Hacker News

Reddit mods and scaling problems in social control

maximumeffort.substack.com

1–10 of 210 posts

Re: Reddit mods and scaling problems in social control

#4

Reddit mods are arguably the worst part of reddit. It's so refreshing to come to HN and see (community- and mod-powered) moderation done right

I would totally agree. So many of them just seem to be on a power trip and moderate based on their mood. Its sad because its really killed reddit for a lot of people.

Re: Reddit mods and scaling problems in social control

#6
FWIW, promoting a bunch of your content (even if original) is seen as anti-participatory in some communities. Even HN recommends against it in the guidelines. While we're at it, at HN's scale you see the same polarization of engagement in /new. Simply posting original quality doesn't warrant engagement.

Reddit gives you a myriad of subreddit case studies to blow-up, but I think this is less of a scaling problem and more the split culture between communities.

Re: Reddit mods and scaling problems in social control

#8
I think the author doesn't understand that reddit mods don't work for reddit. In their discussion with the mods they mention "site-wide rules" which makes me think they don't understand that the mods of each reddit make their own rules.

On that sub, their rules don't allow people who mostly post links to their own site. It's up to you if agree with their rule, but those are the rules they have chosen.

The common response is "if you don't like the rules make your own subreddit". Unfortunately that doesn't scale very well, especially if you're trying to replace a popular subreddit.

Of course the simple workaround here is that OP shouldn't be posting their own content anyway. The should send it to a friend who can post it if they think it's interesting.

Posting your own content if you aren't already an engaged member of the community is like walking into a room and shouting "hey everyone I have something you might like!". That's why there is leniency for active members of a subreddit to post their own things.

For people who are saying "thankfully HN is different!", it really isn't. It's basically the same as a subreddit run by the mods here. I personally like the way the mods run things here, which is why I participate here more. But at the end of the day it's just a different set of humans with a different set of rules (and a little bit more control since they can do things on the server that reddit mods can't). And on this "subreddit" they allow people to post their own content if it's relevant, similar to a lot of other subreddits that aren't /r/moviedetails.

Re: Reddit mods and scaling problems in social control

#9
The problem with reddit mods is that it's like the cops: the people least suited to the job are the ones who are most attracted to it. We end up with subs that effectively have no rules except the random whims of the mods and reddit themselves don't care at all. The comments on reddit reflect this perfectly because it's become more toxic over time, a haven for people interested in the casual abuse of others.
Post reply on HN