Computational Foundations for the Second Law of Thermodynamics
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Computational Foundations for the Second Law of Thermodynamics
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#2I've no idea what he is saying. Can anyone ELI5 ?
Re: Computational Foundations for the Second Law of Thermodynamics
#3I've no idea what he is saying. Can anyone ELI5 ?
I spent ten minutes reading this and lost interest. Everything he explains in the beginning of this article is obvious or common sense (common sense for anyone who has a physics degree, that is) and I am not sure where the "new" things he discovered begin. There is a reason that academic papers are required to have an abstract, an introduction section and a conclusion section. Unfortunately Mr Wolfram seems to think that his endless rambling can convey scientific discovery better.
Re: Computational Foundations for the Second Law of Thermodynamics
#4I've no idea what he is saying. Can anyone ELI5 ?
I spent ten minutes reading this and lost interest. Everything he explains in the beginning of this article is obvious or common sense (common sense for anyone who has a physics degree, that is) and I am not sure where the "new" things he discovered begin. There is a reason that academic papers are required to have an abstract, an introduction section and a conclusion section. Unfortunately Mr Wolfram seems to think…
It’s an expository article and a personal reminiscence. You can look away if you aren’t interested.
Re: Computational Foundations for the Second Law of Thermodynamics
#5I've no idea what he is saying. Can anyone ELI5 ?
You should start with his explanation of ruliad for a full understanding. But the ELI5 idea is that humans have limited mental capacity while reality is trying everything possible. So a lot of physical laws result from that interaction. In this article he does an informal explanation of how a future, formal derivation of the second law of thermodynamics could be done and what problems need to be solved in order to do that (specifically better definition of observers).
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#6Everytime i read stephen wolfram, i can never decide if he’s a genius on the brink of a groundbreaking discovery (emphasis on « on the brink », because i don’t think he has released anything proved to be groundbreaking yet), or just a former math wiz turned delusional.
For example I bought his « new kind of physics » book when it was released, which was philosophically super interesting, yet it’s been 20 years and it looks like nothing came out of it.
Note that i am not a physicist at all, so i wonder what’s the opinion of people actually doing research in the field.
Re: Computational Foundations for the Second Law of Thermodynamics
#7Everytime i read stephen wolfram, i can never decide if he’s a genius on the brink of a groundbreaking discovery (emphasis on « on the brink », because i don’t think he has released anything proved to be groundbreaking yet ), or just a former math wiz turned delusional. For example I bought his « new kind of physics » book when it was released, which was philosophically super interesting, yet it’s been 20 years and i…
There is not really any new insight in the post, though cellular automata are indeed a good way to explain entropy, coarse-graining, etc.
The breakthrough (if it exists) must be in his computational irreducibility theorem, which he alludes to in many places. Unfortunately the link is to a book chapter which doesn't render properly on mobile and seems more of a long ramble than a formal proof, so I didn't dig into it.
An effective principle along the lines of, "if the output of a sufficiently simple program 'seems random,' then it is indistinguishable from random by all other programs," would be extraordinarily powerful and would immediately close many famous open problems, such as the normality of pi (and other numbers like sqrt(2)), infinitude of primes of the form x^2+1, the twin prime conjecture (and Dickson's conjecture), etc. It's somewhat telling that these are still open problems.
Re: Computational Foundations for the Second Law of Thermodynamics
#8I've no idea what he is saying. Can anyone ELI5 ?
I spent ten minutes reading this and lost interest. Everything he explains in the beginning of this article is obvious or common sense (common sense for anyone who has a physics degree, that is) and I am not sure where the "new" things he discovered begin. There is a reason that academic papers are required to have an abstract, an introduction section and a conclusion section. Unfortunately Mr Wolfram seems to think…
He has certainly written quite a few papers, i.e. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=step.... This article is simply not and does need to be considering how bibliographical many aspects of it are.
Re: Computational Foundations for the Second Law of Thermodynamics
#9Everytime i read stephen wolfram, i can never decide if he’s a genius on the brink of a groundbreaking discovery (emphasis on « on the brink », because i don’t think he has released anything proved to be groundbreaking yet ), or just a former math wiz turned delusional. For example I bought his « new kind of physics » book when it was released, which was philosophically super interesting, yet it’s been 20 years and i…
There is not really any new insight in the post, though cellular automata are indeed a good way to explain entropy, coarse-graining, etc. The breakthrough (if it exists) must be in his computational irreducibility theorem, which he alludes to in many places. Unfortunately the link is to a book chapter which doesn't render properly on mobile and seems more of a long ramble than a formal proof, so I didn't dig into it.…
Kind of wonder whether he could help the math world by starting a math college. Could be a stripped down program with basically one or two degree outputs.
There is a LOT of math. It is unreasonably powerful at describing the world. But it’s also hard to cram into one single brain in a more rounded 4 year program. I’m also sure those same degrees would be economically viable as programmers and other professions with minimal added input.
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#10„At its core the Second Law is essentially the statement that “things tend to get more random”.“
This is a common misunderstanding and I’m surprised Wolfram doesn’t seem to get that. A counter example is this: A self-gravitating gas cloud will collapse to a more compact state (a star or in the most extreme case a black hole ). This final state will not look like more random as it is commonly understood.
The second law of physics is essentially the statement that we loose information with time about the initial state.