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Launch HN: Odigos (YC W23) – Instant distributed tracing for Kubernetes clusters

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Launch HN: Odigos (YC W23) – Instant distributed tracing for Kubernetes clusters

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Hi HN! We’re Eden and Ari, co-founders of Odigos (https://github.com/keyval-dev/odigos). Odigos is an open-source project that lets you instantly generate distributed traces for your applications. It works alongside existing monitoring tools and does not require any code changes.

Our earlier experiences with monitoring tools were frustrating. Monitoring a distributed system with multiple microservices, we found ourselves spending way too much time trying to locate the specific microservice that was at the root of a problem. For example, we once spent hours debugging an application which we suspected was causing high latency, only to find out that the actual problem was rooted in a completely different application

Then we learned about distributed tracing, which solves exactly this problem. Unlike metrics or logs that capture a data point in time in a single application, a distributed trace follows a request as it propagates through a distributed environment by tagging it with a unique ID. This allows developers to understand the context of each request and how their distributed applications work.

The downside is that it is difficult to implement. Unlike metrics or logs, the value of distributed tracing is gained only after implementing it across multiple applications. If even one of your applications does not produce distributed tracing, the context propagation is broken and the value of the traces drops significantly.

We manually implemented distributed tracing for multiple companies, but found it a challenge to coordinate all the development teams to instrument their applications in order to achieve a complete distributed trace. Once the implementation was finished, we saw great value and fixed production issues much faster. But partial implementation wasn’t worth much.

We set out to automate this process. We knew how to do most of it, but the trickiest part was how to automatically instrument programs written in compiled languages (like Go). If we could do that, we would be able to automate the entire process of generating distributed traces. While researching, we realized that eBPF—a technology that allows the Linux kernel to load external programs for execution within the kernel—could be used to develop automatic instrumentation for compiled languages. That was the final piece of the puzzle, and with it we were able to develop Odigos.

Odigos first scans and recognizes all your running applications, then recognizes the programming language of each one and auto-instruments it accordingly, using eBPF and OpenTelemetry. In addition, it deploys collectors that buffer, filter, and deliver data to your chosen monitoring tool, and auto scales them according to the amount of traffic. This automation allows developers to enjoy distributed traces within minutes as opposed to manual effort which can take months to implement.

Automatic instrumentation across programming languages is not a trivial task, especially when dealing with static binaries (like the ones produced by the Go compiler). We built multiple mechanisms to make sure we inject the relevant headers in a secure and stable way. We developed a system that tracks functions and structs across different versions of open-source libraries. In addition, we developed a system that performs userspace memory management in eBPF. As a result, Odigos is the only solution that is able to automatically generate distributed traces for compiled languages like Go and Rust. While other solutions require users to be experts in OpenTelemetry or eBPF, our solution does not require prior knowledge of observability technologies.

Our solution can be installed on any Kubernetes cluster by executing a single command. Once installed, we detect the programming language of every running application and apply the relevant instrumentation. For JIT languages (Java and .NET) or interpreted languages (JavaScript and Python) we deploy OpenTelemetry instrumentation. For compiled languages (Go, Rust, C) we deploy our eBPF-based instrumentation. All of this is abstracted from the user, who only has to: (1) select any or all of their target applications and (2) select a backend to send monitoring data to.

In May 2022, we released our first open-source project: automatic instrumentation for Go applications, based on eBPF. We later donated this project to the OpenTelemetry community and it is currently being developed as part of the Go Automatic Instrumentation SIG.

We are big believers in open standards, therefore the instrumentation and collectors used by Odigos are all based on open-source projects developed by the OpenTelemetry community. This also enables us to be vendor-agnostic.

Currently we are focused on building our open-source project. There are no pricing or paid features yet, but in the future, we are planning to offer a managed version of Odigos that will include enterprise features.

If you're interested to learn more, check out our docs (https://docs.odigos.io), watch a demo video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d36AmVtuGU), and visit our website (https://odigos.io).

We’d love to hear your experiences with tracing and monitoring distributed applications and anything else you’d like to share!

Re: Launch HN: Odigos (YC W23) – Instant distributed tracing for Kubernetes clusters

#2
This is really cool - given my perception of the target market it might be worth targeting AWS Elastic Container Service (ECS) next as the userbase there, I would imagine, is generally looking for less-complex solutions (given the complexity difference between Kubernetes and ECS).

Re: Launch HN: Odigos (YC W23) – Instant distributed tracing for Kubernetes clusters

#3
Wow, if this really works like you describe, then this is magic!

> Automatic instrumentation across programming languages is not a trivial task, especially when dealing with static binaries (like the ones produced by the Go compiler). We built multiple mechanisms to make sure we inject the relevant headers in a secure and stable way. We developed a system that tracks functions and structs across different versions of open-source libraries.

Could be very useful for non-greenfield projects. I'd love to learn more about the details, is there any writeup somewhere?

Though I'd still recommend new projects do "proper" tracing with not only one-per-service spans, but also spans for important functions, including additional application-specific tags, as that is easily 10x the value.

But since life is a sequence of tradeoffs, I think this project could be really useful in a lot of places.

Re: Launch HN: Odigos (YC W23) – Instant distributed tracing for Kubernetes clusters

#4
Congrats on the launch! OpenTelemetry/Distributed Tracing has been in dire need of quality of life improvements, so I'm glad to see more folks filling in the gaps.

I see you're injecting trace IDs into programs. How do you guarantee that this doesn't break the binary or flag any security/compliance requirements?

Re: Launch HN: Odigos (YC W23) – Instant distributed tracing for Kubernetes clusters

#6
This is really cool. Upon further Googling, readers may be interested in https://kubernetes.io/blog/2017/12/using-ebpf-in-kubernetes/

If you can go beyond Kubernetes, I think that'd give Odigos more staying power. Naturally some integrations are out of your hands, AWS Fargate being one (https://github.com/aws/containers-roadmap/issues/1027). However, if you could get integrations up and running with the likes of Fargate, Fly.io, Render.com etc. That'd be amazing.

Re: Launch HN: Odigos (YC W23) – Instant distributed tracing for Kubernetes clusters

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post #3

Wow, if this really works like you describe, then this is magic! > Automatic instrumentation across programming languages is not a trivial task, especially when dealing with static binaries (like the ones produced by the Go compiler). We built multiple mechanisms to make sure we inject the relevant headers in a secure and stable way. We developed a system that tracks functions and structs across different versions of…

We are actually doing technical deep dive on the next meeting of the OpenTelemetry Go auto instrumentation meeting in Tuesday. Will be happy to share the presentation afterwards.

In addition, we automatically create spans for popular open source libraries in use so you should also expect to see spans for database connections / cloud SDKs/ Kafka clients / etc. Definitely agree that manual instrumentation is very important in addition to the automatic one

Re: Launch HN: Odigos (YC W23) – Instant distributed tracing for Kubernetes clusters

#9

Congrats on the launch! OpenTelemetry/Distributed Tracing has been in dire need of quality of life improvements, so I'm glad to see more folks filling in the gaps. I see you're injecting trace IDs into programs. How do you guarantee that this doesn't break the binary or flag any security/compliance requirements?

This is something we are thinking about a lot. We developed multiple mechanisms to make sure we inject the IDs in a safe way. You can see the code here: https://github.com/keyval-dev/opentelemetry-go-instrumentati...

Re: Launch HN: Odigos (YC W23) – Instant distributed tracing for Kubernetes clusters

#10

This is really cool - given my perception of the target market it might be worth targeting AWS Elastic Container Service (ECS) next as the userbase there, I would imagine, is generally looking for less-complex solutions (given the complexity difference between Kubernetes and ECS).

ECS is definitely on our roadmap!
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