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Haiku beta 4: a thing of beauty

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Re: Haiku beta 4: a thing of beauty

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It probably can be used to save under-powered hardware from being discarded; one would think that for limited-scope usage (e.g. browsing/basic productivity etc), it should perform well.

> under-powered hardware ... one would think that for limited-scope usage (e.g. browsing ...), it should perform well.

Alas, I fear that browsing is probably one of the things that require good performance and a huge amount of software and complexity. Because browsing probably involves "checking Gmail" (huge amount of JS, need a good fast JS engine e.g. with JIT etc.) or "watching a YouTube video" (need to have video codecs correctly connected to the graphics card hardware), etc.

Re: Haiku beta 4: a thing of beauty

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It probably can be used to save under-powered hardware from being discarded; one would think that for limited-scope usage (e.g. browsing/basic productivity etc), it should perform well.

> under-powered hardware ... one would think that for limited-scope usage (e.g. browsing ...), it should perform well. Alas, I fear that browsing is probably one of the things that require good performance and a huge amount of software and complexity. Because browsing probably involves "checking Gmail" (huge amount of JS, need a good fast JS engine e.g. with JIT etc.) or "watching a YouTube video" (need to have video…

Just check gmail using lynx ;)

Re: Haiku beta 4: a thing of beauty

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I am confused about this:

> Haiku, like BeOS before it, is not a Unix. If you actively like Unix, and what you want to do already works well on Unix – any Unix, and that includes macOS, as well as Linux and FreeBSD – then you probably won't see much appeal here.

Don’t they support the same set of terminal command as in other Unix-like systems? From what I saw [1] there aren’t much difference. Well that is what what people care about unix, right?

[1]: https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/applications/list...

Re: Haiku beta 4: a thing of beauty

#9
Haiku sounds much more usable than I'd realized:

> The new version supports HiDPI displays [...] and has significantly improved Wi-Fi support, including via some USB Wi-Fi adapters[.]

> [...]

> It has translation layers for both X11 and Wayland, as well as for Gtk apps, alongside the WINE support it gained this time last year. This means a number of new apps, including the GNOME Web browser Epiphany, a full graphical version of Emacs, updated POSIX layer, WINE, and more.

> [...]

> In testing, we didn't experience a single crash[.] [...] Just for reference, this article was written on Haiku itself, on the bare metal of an old ThinkPad W500, using a Markdown editor called Ghostwriter.

All I really need for most of my computer use is a web browser, Emacs, and a decent command line, and I imagine similar is true for many HN readers. Sounds like Haiku is ready for hobbyists in this crowd to use for a fair chunk of our most common computing tasks.

I love the Linux desktop, but I'm really curious about non-Unix F/OSS desktops. I will have to see if there's a place for Haiku in my life on some old hardware!

Re: Haiku beta 4: a thing of beauty

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Sorry I missed the marketing - I love that it's different, but who's the target user and what's the pitch for them to use Haiku? The author warned about backlash, but having a tight pitch is a key ingredient in continuing the warm vibes and avoiding backlash.

IMHO not-Linux isn't so scary anymore, plenty of people have fought with MacOS to get the better hardware, slicker desktop, etc.

Does it run Docker? If so, I'd love to see a solid integration where I can have bug-compatible linux environment for development, but Haiku for simplicity, speed & UI

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