Ghost Ships - What happens when ships become data?
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Re: Ghost Ships - What happens when ships become data?
#2Elsewhere, “quants” with PhDs in astrophysics collate historical data with information about geography, weather, stock prices, and ship movements, searching for opportunities to place stock market bets on global trade.
I know that this is just an inevitable/necessary part of a functioning market, but it somehow it also seems a little bit sad that this kind of human intellectual horsepower is spent on things like this. I could say the same thing about the smart people who spend their time doing things such as making social media more addictive.
Re: Ghost Ships - What happens when ships become data?
#3Watching some mariners on youtube [1] and they take a pretty dim view on the idea of ghost ships, except in certain short haul scenarios. They cite that almost all of the maintenance takes place continuously while the ship is underway. While automation may reduce the bridge crew, until there are cheap robots that can perform all maintenance tasks - from overhauling engines, maintaining equipment, painting everything to protect from marine air, troubleshooting reefer units, to inspecting internal voids, not to mention routine tasks (docking, cargo operations), and emergency tasks (firefighting, damage control) - there's always going to be a decent number on board.
Re: Ghost Ships - What happens when ships become data?
#4Elsewhere, “quants” with PhDs in astrophysics collate historical data with information about geography, weather, stock prices, and ship movements, searching for opportunities to place stock market bets on global trade. I know that this is just an inevitable/necessary part of a functioning market, but it somehow it also seems a little bit sad that this kind of human intellectual horsepower is spent on things like this…
Theoretically market quants are pushing the market to the limit of available info, smoothing over inefficiencies and reallocating risk. In practice they absolutely are not doing that at all and it's all a staggering drain, but the concept is cool. Like futures trading is probably a net positive, though that's the exception.
Re: Ghost Ships - What happens when ships become data?
#5Elsewhere, “quants” with PhDs in astrophysics collate historical data with information about geography, weather, stock prices, and ship movements, searching for opportunities to place stock market bets on global trade. I know that this is just an inevitable/necessary part of a functioning market, but it somehow it also seems a little bit sad that this kind of human intellectual horsepower is spent on things like this…
We should spend more horsepower on high-level resource allocation, not less.
Re: Ghost Ships - What happens when ships become data?
#6Watching some mariners on youtube [1] and they take a pretty dim view on the idea of ghost ships, except in certain short haul scenarios. They cite that almost all of the maintenance takes place continuously while the ship is underway. While automation may reduce the bridge crew, until there are cheap robots that can perform all maintenance tasks - from overhauling engines, maintaining equipment, painting everything…
Most people seem to underestimate how corrosive ocean water and spray is to nearly everything.
Re: Ghost Ships - What happens when ships become data?
#7Watching some mariners on youtube [1] and they take a pretty dim view on the idea of ghost ships, except in certain short haul scenarios. They cite that almost all of the maintenance takes place continuously while the ship is underway. While automation may reduce the bridge crew, until there are cheap robots that can perform all maintenance tasks - from overhauling engines, maintaining equipment, painting everything…
Most people seem to underestimate how corrosive ocean water and spray is to nearly everything.
Also the number of people steering a cargo ship isn’t that much, i mean it doesn’t take hundreds of people to sail it so how much is actually gained?
Re: Ghost Ships - What happens when ships become data?
#8Watching some mariners on youtube [1] and they take a pretty dim view on the idea of ghost ships, except in certain short haul scenarios. They cite that almost all of the maintenance takes place continuously while the ship is underway. While automation may reduce the bridge crew, until there are cheap robots that can perform all maintenance tasks - from overhauling engines, maintaining equipment, painting everything…
The Ever Given that got stuck in the Suez, was carrying $750+ million worth of cargo. I do not see how a few sailors on hand does anything for the profitability of the ship. Even if they were idle 99% of the time, seems like a reasonable investment.
Re: Ghost Ships - What happens when ships become data?
#9Watching some mariners on youtube [1] and they take a pretty dim view on the idea of ghost ships, except in certain short haul scenarios. They cite that almost all of the maintenance takes place continuously while the ship is underway. While automation may reduce the bridge crew, until there are cheap robots that can perform all maintenance tasks - from overhauling engines, maintaining equipment, painting everything…
Most people seem to underestimate how corrosive ocean water and spray is to nearly everything.
I have chipped, primed, and painted a ship many times because of this. Fortunately it was only around the equipment I "owned" so the space was only about 10x10 ft.
The amount of rust created is INSANE
Re: Ghost Ships - What happens when ships become data?
#10Watching some mariners on youtube [1] and they take a pretty dim view on the idea of ghost ships, except in certain short haul scenarios. They cite that almost all of the maintenance takes place continuously while the ship is underway. While automation may reduce the bridge crew, until there are cheap robots that can perform all maintenance tasks - from overhauling engines, maintaining equipment, painting everything…
> While automation may reduce the bridge crew,
The guys who get paid the most, are also the easiest to replace with computers?
Robot ships crewed with human sailors sounds a bit dystopian.