Epic Games to pay $520M to resolve FTC allegations
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Re: Epic Games to pay $520M to resolve FTC allegations
#2Good. It is also time to do the same to TikTok and fine them for abusing the privacy of its users in the billions of dollars.
They have been caught once [0] and have been caught again this year [1] and generally have lied about accessing the sensitive data of it's own users [2], [3], [4]. Clearly the fines in [0] and [1] are extremely low and the fine must increase in the billions since these are repeated privacy violations and haven't learned anything from it.
[0] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/14/technology/tiktok-kids-pr...
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/26/technology/tiktok-childre...
[2] https://futurism.com/tiktok-spy-locations-specific-americans
[3] https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emilybakerwhite/tiktok-...
[4] https://techcrunch.com/2021/06/03/tiktok-just-gave-itself-pe...
Re: Epic Games to pay $520M to resolve FTC allegations
#3Good. It is also time to do the same to TikTok and fine them for abusing the privacy of its users in the billions of dollars. They have been caught once [0] and have been caught again this year [1] and generally have lied about accessing the sensitive data of it's own users [2], [3], [4]. Clearly the fines in [0] and [1] are extremely low and the fine must increase in the billions since these are repeated privacy vio…
Fortnite made 4 billion
Each
Year
You think that will change future behavior?
I doubt it.
Re: Epic Games to pay $520M to resolve FTC allegations
#4I'm fine with Epic getting financially reprimanded for dark patterns and anti-consumer behaviour. I am not on board with this:
> That lawsuit also accused the company of illegally enabling real-time voice and text chat communications for children and teens in the game by default.
So voice chat must now be turned off by default for all children across America? How on earth is this supposed to be policed? Should everyone playing a game be required to upload ID? And what is the gate between on and off by default? A single button press?
This one doesn't make any sense to me. Voice chat is a staple of online games. Having a core feature included in a game by default is common sense.
Re: Epic Games to pay $520M to resolve FTC allegations
#5Good. It is also time to do the same to TikTok and fine them for abusing the privacy of its users in the billions of dollars. They have been caught once [0] and have been caught again this year [1] and generally have lied about accessing the sensitive data of it's own users [2], [3], [4]. Clearly the fines in [0] and [1] are extremely low and the fine must increase in the billions since these are repeated privacy vio…
Fortnite made 4 billion Each Year You think that will change future behavior? I doubt it.
That's the whole point. They can afford the fine, especially in the billions of dollars just like what Facebook has done for repeat violations and it should be the standard fine for billion-dollar companies.
Re: Epic Games to pay $520M to resolve FTC allegations
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Re: Epic Games to pay $520M to resolve FTC allegations
#7I'm fine with Epic getting financially reprimanded for dark patterns and anti-consumer behaviour. I am not on board with this: > That lawsuit also accused the company of illegally enabling real-time voice and text chat communications for children and teens in the game by default. So voice chat must now be turned off by default for all children across America? How on earth is this supposed to be policed? Should everyo…
Can it be off by default but the user can enable it manually? Does it say it's off unless age verified or just off by default?
Re: Epic Games to pay $520M to resolve FTC allegations
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Lawyers will get nothing. This was the FTC, not a class action lawsuit with lawyers working on contingency.
About half the amount is going to refunds to consumers.
Re: Epic Games to pay $520M to resolve FTC allegations
#9I'm fine with Epic getting financially reprimanded for dark patterns and anti-consumer behaviour. I am not on board with this: > That lawsuit also accused the company of illegally enabling real-time voice and text chat communications for children and teens in the game by default. So voice chat must now be turned off by default for all children across America? How on earth is this supposed to be policed? Should everyo…
If this is a COPPA issue, you just have to ask for birth year and you’re allowed to trust the answer.
Re: Epic Games to pay $520M to resolve FTC allegations
#10I'm fine with Epic getting financially reprimanded for dark patterns and anti-consumer behaviour. I am not on board with this: > That lawsuit also accused the company of illegally enabling real-time voice and text chat communications for children and teens in the game by default. So voice chat must now be turned off by default for all children across America? How on earth is this supposed to be policed? Should everyo…
> So voice chat must now be turned off by default for all children across America? Should everyone playing a game be required to upload ID? And what is the gate between on and off by default? A single button press?
When you go to the shop to buy alcohol you need to show an id. So, adults are free to buy alcohol but not children. Why is this any different?
I understand that the problem comes from the amount of chat abuse in on-line communities. It not just swearing but the constant harrasement as soon as someone is losing a match, or even if they are winning.
I understand your concerns, but ignoring the chat problem paints a partial picture of the situation.