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Re: Apple Music Sing

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My daughter is going to love this.

Can anyone make out if songs like this are specially mastered with separate vocal channels? I’m guessing they’re not minus ones that someone else has arranged and played. If these are coming from the original artist it’ll be interesting to know if they’re being uploaded as separate vocal channels or if Apple is applying ML to do voice isolation.

Do any audio file formats support separate tracks with level info?

Re: Apple Music Sing

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My daughter is going to love this. Can anyone make out if songs like this are specially mastered with separate vocal channels? I’m guessing they’re not minus ones that someone else has arranged and played. If these are coming from the original artist it’ll be interesting to know if they’re being uploaded as separate vocal channels or if Apple is applying ML to do voice isolation. Do any audio file formats support sep…

This is more or less just a Karaoke machine. Presumably Apple is getting the music from the same place they do.

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My daughter is going to love this. Can anyone make out if songs like this are specially mastered with separate vocal channels? I’m guessing they’re not minus ones that someone else has arranged and played. If these are coming from the original artist it’ll be interesting to know if they’re being uploaded as separate vocal channels or if Apple is applying ML to do voice isolation. Do any audio file formats support sep…

My guess is that they're doing it through ML. The old "cancel out the left track with the inverted right track" trick is probably good enough, but I don't see why Apple wouldn't take it one step further.

> Do any audio file formats support separate tracks with level info?

I don't know what file format audio engineering software uses to store all the track info but my guess is that it's akin to a zip file containing a flac for each track.

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Is this akin to karaoke? (The word never appears on the page.)

> Apple today announced Apple Music Sing, an exciting new feature that allows users to sing along to their favorite songs with adjustable vocals1 and real-time lyrics.

Users can already "sing along to their favorite songs" -- this feels like a wasted opportunity in the first sentence to explain the differentiator. It feels like they're misusing/misunderstanding what "sing along" means, and the real feature enhancement here is that users now have the ability to suppress vocals in songs. (Which is kinda cool.)

I get that this is a press release, but "show don't tell" would go a long way in announcements like this, even (especially?) if it's not available yet.

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My daughter is going to love this. Can anyone make out if songs like this are specially mastered with separate vocal channels? I’m guessing they’re not minus ones that someone else has arranged and played. If these are coming from the original artist it’ll be interesting to know if they’re being uploaded as separate vocal channels or if Apple is applying ML to do voice isolation. Do any audio file formats support sep…

Native Instruments tried to popularise a four-track format for DJs but it didn’t spread far enough to take hold.

Re: Apple Music Sing

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This sounds cool. I was in glee club in Junior High, that would be almost 50 years ago, and haven’t really sang since. On the rare occasions when I have our house to myself, I sometimes partake in Apple Fitness+ dance exercises - I really don’t want anyone seeing that. Now I have the option to sing, in a non-embarrassing setting!

This Music Sing service might also be really good at parties.

Re: Apple Music Sing

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> and can be enjoyed on iPhone, iPad, and the new Apple TV 4K

But the old Apple TV 4K is not powerful enough for displaying text on a TV, even though any old iPhone is?

I get that they want to push device and service adoption but they should pick a lane, either push users to upgrade devices, or push to sign up to paid services. Pushing for both at the same time is greedy.

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My daughter is going to love this. Can anyone make out if songs like this are specially mastered with separate vocal channels? I’m guessing they’re not minus ones that someone else has arranged and played. If these are coming from the original artist it’ll be interesting to know if they’re being uploaded as separate vocal channels or if Apple is applying ML to do voice isolation. Do any audio file formats support sep…

I assume this comes along with “Mastered for iTunes” / “Apple Digital Masters” ah least in part. I think if it’s only available for limited tracks, we’ll know they went the full separate-the-vocal-track route. If it’s everything, then I bet they augmented with ML.

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> and can be enjoyed on iPhone, iPad, and the new Apple TV 4K But the old Apple TV 4K is not powerful enough for displaying text on a TV, even though any old iPhone is? I get that they want to push device and service adoption but they should pick a lane, either push users to upgrade devices, or push to sign up to paid services. Pushing for both at the same time is greedy.

That line stood out, powerful enough for 3D games but not for Karaoke…
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