SOPA vote is now December 21

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Post by hsmyers » Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 2:54 AM UTC

SOPA vote is now December 21
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Post by Mithrandir » Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 5:05 AM UTC

> A controversial measure aimed at stopping online privacy...

Heh, I've made this mistake too when speaking, although privacy certainly could be affected by the SOPA.

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Post by r00fus » Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 5:23 AM UTC

So the delay is just to put it under the radar while everyone is off on Holiday break?

Devious.

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 7:01 AM UTC

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Post by jen_h » Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 7:03 AM UTC

Mithrandir wrote: post #2

> A controversial measure aimed at stopping online privacy ... Heh, I've made this mistake too when speaking, although privacy certainly could be affected by the SOPA.

I wrote my Congressman about my objections to this the bill, and his auto-responder gave me some bs about understanding my concerns about "Internet Privacy," not "Piracy." Our tax dollars at work!

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Post by orangecat » Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 7:06 AM UTC

Ugh. One thing I oddly haven't seen mentioned at all: if it passes, will Obama sign it? I disagree with him on many things, but he's not stupid, and given his support base there have to be some geeks close to him that can explain how awful it is. Of course, his support base also includes Hollywood...

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Post by alexqgb » Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 7:30 AM UTC

orangecat wrote: post #6

Ugh. One thing I oddly haven't seen mentioned at all: if it passes, will Obama sign it? I disagree with him on many things, but he's not stupid, and given his support base there have to be some geeks close to him that can explain how awful it is. Of course, his support base also includes Hollywood...

Obama doesn't give a flying fig about his support base. Sorry to be so blunt, but that bastard just threatened to veto the NDAA unless the provisions allowing indefinite dentition of Americans without charge or trial were put pack in. His base is screaming bloody murder, and the White House remains utterly unmoved.

Added irony: the Senate passed this abomination on Bill of Rights Day, precisely 220 years after the (now gutted) Bill of Rights was ratified.

Separately, this same base has been howling about ACTA, which has been spearheaded by none other than Joe Biden. So no, he isn't going to veto the censorship bill either. But you better be careful about how you choose to protest. Obama has also out-Cheneyd Cheney in claiming that the President has the power to hunt and kill Americans without charge or trial if the Executive (not the Courts) determines that the 'target' is an 'enemy combatant'.

And what's the standard for making this determination? Top Secret, naturally. According to Obama, it's all about "remaining flexible". And that brings us to Christopher Hitchens, who observed that "The essence of tyranny is not iron law. It is capricious law."

The really scare thing about all this is the prospect of Democrats going into open revolt, ejecting Obama from the White House, and inadvertently handing this basket of unspeakable nasty to Newt Gingrich.

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Post by bo1024 » Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 7:55 AM UTC

jen_h wrote: post #5

Mithrandir wrote: post #2

> A controversial measure aimed at stopping online privacy ... Heh, I've made this mistake too when speaking, although privacy certainly could be affected by the SOPA.

I wrote my Congressman about my objections to this the bill, and his auto-responder gave me some bs about understanding my concerns about "Internet Privacy," not "Piracy." Our tax dollars at work!

That's why I've been calling mine.

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Post by rorrr » Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 8:09 AM UTC

orangecat wrote: post #6

Ugh. One thing I oddly haven't seen mentioned at all: if it passes, will Obama sign it? I disagree with him on many things, but he's not stupid, and given his support base there have to be some geeks close to him that can explain how awful it is. Of course, his support base also includes Hollywood...

Obama sold out a long time ago. Look at his pre-election videos and compare to what he's doing. He's not much better than Bush. I had such hopes for him, but he turned out to be just another politician, just more intelligent than the previous president.

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Post by redthrowaway » Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 8:33 AM UTC

alexqgb wrote: post #7

orangecat wrote: post #6

Ugh. One thing I oddly haven't seen mentioned at all: if it passes, will Obama sign it? I disagree with him on many things, but he's not stupid, and given his support base there have to be some geeks close to him that can explain how awful it is. Of course, his support base also includes Hollywood...

Obama doesn't give a flying fig about his support base. Sorry to be so blunt, but that bastard just threatened to veto the NDAA unless the provisions allowing indefinite dentition of Americans without charge or trial were put pack in. His base is screaming bloody murder, and the White House remains utterly unmoved. Added irony: the Senate passed this abomination on Bill of Rights Day, precisely 220 years after the (n…

He's counting on the Republicans selecting someone crazy enough to bring out his disenfranchised base, and it might just happen. Still, Newt will quickly calm down after the primaries. He is many things, few of them good, but an idiot is not one of them. He won't say anything too crazy and risk scaring up support for Obama.

This election could go either way, and quite frankly I don't give a damn. I tried the Hope thing with Obama, and I got burned. They can all die in a fire. The very best I can hope for government at this point is that they ignore the things I care about (fat bloody chance).