Megaupload Video Reinstated
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Megaupload Video Reinstated
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Re: Megaupload Video Reinstated
#2So Congress is going on the assumption that the industries wont abuse SOPA, but the industry is abusing existing law, which proves their intentions.
Re: Megaupload Video Reinstated
#3funny, i played Quake2 with Kim Dotcom (aka Kimble) back in the 90s and he was actually very good at it. He went on to built a couple of scammy businesses, got arrested for insider trading and left germany to resurface as the guy behind megaupload which apparently is very successfull, but still a bit shady ;)
Be aware of this guy, his hands are dirty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Schmitz
Re: Megaupload Video Reinstated
#4So Congress is going on the assumption that the industries wont abuse SOPA, but the industry is abusing existing law, which proves their intentions.
Congress is going on the assumption that the people who support SOPA will hire their children and spouses for more lucrative fake employment than will the people who oppose SOPA.
Re: Megaupload Video Reinstated
#5So Congress is going on the assumption that the industries wont abuse SOPA, but the industry is abusing existing law, which proves their intentions.
> the industry is abusing existing law
Sounds more like UMG has a deal with YT to short circuit DMCA, which isn't against the law.
I expect that contract requires UMG to demonstrate a copyright claim on video.
In this case, obviously UMG didn't do that, and violated the contract. It's similar to a false DMCA takedown, except that its not against the law.
YT could cancel the contract, sue UMG for damages, or simply fine them if the contract allows that.
My point is no laws were broken.
Re: Megaupload Video Reinstated
#6funny, i played Quake2 with Kim Dotcom (aka Kimble) back in the 90s and he was actually very good at it. He went on to built a couple of scammy businesses, got arrested for insider trading and left germany to resurface as the guy behind megaupload which apparently is very successfull, but still a bit shady ;) Be aware of this guy, his hands are dirty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Schmitz
He's paid his debt to society. It seems rather unfair to hold what he was doing nearly a decade ago against him now.
Megaupload abides by the DMCA by taking things down when asked. Just because they don't apparently have an under the table deal with media companies like youtube does isn't a reason to say they're "a bit shady".
Re: Megaupload Video Reinstated
#7So Congress is going on the assumption that the industries wont abuse SOPA, but the industry is abusing existing law, which proves their intentions.
> the industry is abusing existing law Sounds more like UMG has a deal with YT to short circuit DMCA, which isn't against the law. I expect that contract requires UMG to demonstrate a copyright claim on video. In this case, obviously UMG didn't do that, and violated the contract. It's similar to a false DMCA takedown, except that its not against the law. YT could cancel the contract, sue UMG for damages, or simply fi…
Intentional misrepresentation for the purpose of gaining some advantage or harming the other party is fraud, and is illegal. If lying about the copyright can be shown to have hurt YT or helped UMG then there may well be a legitimate case there. Not that I'd ever expect to see it prosecuted.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the industry is abusing existing law Sounds more like UMG has a deal with YT to short circuit DMCA, which isn't against the law. I expect that contract requires UMG to demonstrate a copyright claim on video. In this case, obviously UMG didn't do that, and violated the contract. It's similar to a false DMCA takedown, except that its not against the law. YT could cancel the contract, sue UMG for damages, or simply fi…
Intentional misrepresentation for the purpose of gaining some advantage or harming the other party is fraud, and is illegal. If lying about the copyright can be shown to have hurt YT or helped UMG then there may well be a legitimate case there. Not that I'd ever expect to see it prosecuted.
Granted, but what if no intentional misrepresentation happened?
Did UMG ever assert a copyright claim on the video? Or do they have carte-blanche to remove any video they want?
If they asked YT to remove it, that might be fraud, because somebody on YT's side would remove the video on the assumption that UMG had a claim.
But if they just flagged the video for automatic removal, is that fraud? Can you lie to a computer?
Re: Megaupload Video Reinstated
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the industry is abusing existing law Sounds more like UMG has a deal with YT to short circuit DMCA, which isn't against the law. I expect that contract requires UMG to demonstrate a copyright claim on video. In this case, obviously UMG didn't do that, and violated the contract. It's similar to a false DMCA takedown, except that its not against the law. YT could cancel the contract, sue UMG for damages, or simply fi…
Intentional misrepresentation for the purpose of gaining some advantage or harming the other party is fraud, and is illegal. If lying about the copyright can be shown to have hurt YT or helped UMG then there may well be a legitimate case there. Not that I'd ever expect to see it prosecuted.
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Re: Megaupload Video Reinstated
#10funny, i played Quake2 with Kim Dotcom (aka Kimble) back in the 90s and he was actually very good at it. He went on to built a couple of scammy businesses, got arrested for insider trading and left germany to resurface as the guy behind megaupload which apparently is very successfull, but still a bit shady ;) Be aware of this guy, his hands are dirty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Schmitz
Mark Zuckerberg called his users "dumb fucks" and hacked his competitor and several school journalists' email accounts. Yet we don't hold that against him today. Kim has proved that he's changed, so don't criticize him for past events.