Bloated college administration is making education unaffordable
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#2Given that this is quillette one would think they would be hesitant to question the wise and steady hand of the free market.
Surely the rationally-acting rational actors at all of these institutions are acting rationally in accordance with rationality?
After all, we live in a time when any "entrepreneur" can affix his name to a suburban sprawl wasteland strip mall storefront, open a University, and get accredited by at least SOMEONE and drive all of the wasteful and bloated (and liberal sissy-manchild-- their words not mine) institutions out of business, using the holy and righteous motive of PROFIT to deliver a better, cheaper, more rationally rational product to all of the young impressionable minds out there, right?
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#3The irony of educators not being able to do math was..... Elementary.. It starts in kindergarten.
https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/underfunded-teacher...
Just grabbed a random link for the above, but underfunded retirement accounts and underfunded pensions explain math in 2022 quite well.
Any inferior integer is good enough /s
A few links that date back to 1993 (pulled at random):
https://www.investors.com/etfs-and-funds/sectors/sp500-ge-no...
https://www.deseret.com/1993/12/12/19081151/list-of-underfun...
https://nrtwc.org/underfunded-union-pensions/
Many industries are "beyond a crisis", its not a permacrisis :p
The public employee pensions are their own mess too
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#4Imo it is the bloated general education requirements, squeezing as much money from students as possible. It should only take 2 years to earn a bachelor’s. I believe if these classes were optional, they would not survive in the curriculum. University should not be in the business of propping up classes that no one wants, or professors who don’t have classes to teach.
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#5This is... strange. The issue of a price would seem to me to be an issue of supply and demand. Yet, this article talks about a weirdly tangential topic. This article seems to put forward the idea that the administration of colleges has become bloated and this has led to higher fees. But that's simply not the causal chain. No one in any administration is thinking "better put that tuition up, and accept the loss in candidates to justify this new diversity officer".
Demand is through the roof - there are 20 candidates for every 1 place, and those candidates have almost unlimited access to loans. So the price is immaterial, if you get a place, you pay whatever they ask.
So sure, there's going to be administrative bloat - because there's literally no limit to the purse strings. And this is exacerbated by university rankings which will literally list staff:student ratio as a metric. But none of this has anything to do with Quillette's racist agenda.
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#6This is... strange. The issue of a price would seem to me to be an issue of supply and demand. Yet, this article talks about a weirdly tangential topic. This article seems to put forward the idea that the administration of colleges has become bloated and this has led to higher fees. But that's simply not the causal chain. No one in any administration is thinking "better put that tuition up, and accept the loss in can…
And yet education costs were exponentially lower until about 1-2 decades ago where they exploded. Despite demand being ridiculously high even in the past.
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#7This is... strange. The issue of a price would seem to me to be an issue of supply and demand. Yet, this article talks about a weirdly tangential topic. This article seems to put forward the idea that the administration of colleges has become bloated and this has led to higher fees. But that's simply not the causal chain. No one in any administration is thinking "better put that tuition up, and accept the loss in can…
And yet education costs were exponentially lower until about 1-2 decades ago where they exploded. Despite demand being ridiculously high even in the past.
Reduced state funding is a significant component of rapidly rising higher ed costs in the US.
https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/state-hig...
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#8This is... strange. The issue of a price would seem to me to be an issue of supply and demand. Yet, this article talks about a weirdly tangential topic. This article seems to put forward the idea that the administration of colleges has become bloated and this has led to higher fees. But that's simply not the causal chain. No one in any administration is thinking "better put that tuition up, and accept the loss in can…
And yet education costs were exponentially lower until about 1-2 decades ago where they exploded. Despite demand being ridiculously high even in the past.
Exponentially lower. What does that mean? Three orders of magnitude?
Re: Bloated college administration is making education unaffordable
#9Imo it is the bloated general education requirements, squeezing as much money from students as possible. It should only take 2 years to earn a bachelor’s. I believe if these classes were optional, they would not survive in the curriculum. University should not be in the business of propping up classes that no one wants, or professors who don’t have classes to teach.
> It should only take 2 years to earn a bachelor’s
Only if you assume that the purpose of a bachelor's is to provide job training in one specific profession. Not so much if you believe in the value of a well-rounded education, for people who are likely to change careers multiple times, maybe also be civic leaders, etc.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but the debate between these two visions has been going on for centuries and IMO it's not very useful to assume one answer (especially without recognizing the assumption as such).
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#10This is... strange. The issue of a price would seem to me to be an issue of supply and demand. Yet, this article talks about a weirdly tangential topic. This article seems to put forward the idea that the administration of colleges has become bloated and this has led to higher fees. But that's simply not the causal chain. No one in any administration is thinking "better put that tuition up, and accept the loss in can…
And yet education costs were exponentially lower until about 1-2 decades ago where they exploded. Despite demand being ridiculously high even in the past.
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